Eminem Is modern Em really as bad as yall make him out to be?

Started by Groovy Tony, Aug 30, 2015, in Eminem Add to Reading List

  1. Groovy Tony
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    Groovy Tony Grandma's baby Eddie Kane

    Aug 30, 2015
    I was listening to Soldier yesterday evening and of course it was as epic as it was when I first heard it. Then a couple of songs later, Best Friend came on shuffle. I don't know why alot of people on here s--- on that verse so much but I always thought it was a great feature. The religion scheme he did throughout the verse was incredible, the way his verse was juxtaposed with Yela's soft crooning was cool, and there's alot of dope wordplay. Now after I heard these two songs, this question came to mind. Is modern Eminem really as bad as he is made out to be? Now I know his flow doesn't sound as effortless as it used to, his humor isn't as sharp and the beats he raps on now aren't as appealing but besides that, I think every other facet of his craft is just as good now if not better than it was before the hiatus.

    Lyrically, I believe he is at his peak right now. In Recovery he tried to recreate Lil Wayne's punchlines and they were forced and pretty corny. Ever since Recovery, they have improved tenfold, even surpassing Wayne's. Like this, for example. "So if you don't like what I have to say on the mic then ya might just wanna act like quarterbacks and take a f---in hike when I snap cus im a sinner". This is massively better wordplay then "my fillet is smokin weed yea fa---- the stakes are high". Like from h--- the Sequel to now, you can see the improvement. Going back to the religion scheme, the football wordplay is fitting since on sunday, the majority of NFL games are on so this line does make some sense in context. I'm not gonna do an in depth analysis on Best Friend's lyrics but the last thing I will say about it is that the droppin a duece line isn't as bad as yall make it seem to be (and the tupac,biggie, proof mention is akin to a hip hop holy trinity). Of course it's not literal since after he talks about filling up a syllable clip. These are just figurative expressions for rapping.

    And let me ask you this... Is it really that cringeworthy or are you just picking and choosing? Kanye saying "these n----s a--- water get the drano" Future saying "I just took a piss and I seen codeine coming out" or kendrick saying "different toilet same s---" doesn't get nearly as much flack. Idk if it's nostalgia bias, white guilt, the bar he set for himself that causes nitpicking, people wanting to fit in with the bandwagon, or you just don't like Em being overly technical and overly complex lyrically and think he's trying hard but he really isn't bad at all. He's evolved and at this point in his career, he has nothing to prove.

    You look at other active rappers in his generation and only Nas is touching him. He is in his second prime. But that's just my opinion. He isn't as great as he once was but to say he fell off is just asinine. I'm not grudgingly nodding my head to the overhate of him anymore. The stigma of him on here makes him seem like OJ Da Juiceman or someone lol



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    h--- no
    f--- what these cynics say CHICKA
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  2. Big Dangerous
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    Aug 30, 2015
    He's too rap rappity right now but he isn't bad.
     
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  3. Nick
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    Aug 30, 2015
    Lyrics wise he awesome. But people like to sit a vibe to songs. Songs like right for me and die alone etc. don't follow that description.
     
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  4. DetroitDGAF
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    Lol not even. People are stuck in the past. Get over it folks
     
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  5. Apocalypse
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    Apocalypse I’m the G.O.A.T

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    No. People just like hating.
     
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  6. KingDrizz
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    Aug 30, 2015
    you just gotta accept he's not the man he was 15 years ago
     
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  7. Suburban Scum
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    Rappity rap is such a f---ing cringeworthy thing to say literally more awkward than anything Eminem has ever said
    Back to the topic f--- no! People literally ignore the h--- out of highs since his return and only focus on the bad not the meh but the extremely s-----y bad
    Because talking about Guts Over Fear and how great that second verse is is boring talking about So Far and him whipping his a--- is a better thread
     
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  8. Goldy
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    Aug 30, 2015
    He's still puts out great music today, hes just not consistent anymore. That being said he's still one of the best there is, even right now.
     
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  9. Big Dangerous
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    But it's true :hehehe3:
     
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  10. Section80
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    It's just this forum tbh. There is a thread where someone is saying Mac miller is better... That alone. Because eminem is more technically skilled he is worse in their eyes..
    The answer from someone who isn't as r-----ed as the people who hate em on here is that he's at the top of the style he wants to do. I myself am a fan of tech skill so I rank eminem highly. But on section eighty, your opinion is invalid unless you hate him.
     
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  11. Thy
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    Yes he is terrible right now compared to his older self, but to say that he's worse than fa----s like Mac Miller? You're just certifying yourself as an Eminem hater at that point.
     
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  13. underground
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    his flows on HTS were the most enjoyable i've heard from him since his comeback
     
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  14. threee
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    Nah he still makes some great stuff, it's just cool to hate on him
     
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  15. fiddster
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    Both verses on that song are great although the second is better, wish we could of seen more of that flow
     
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  16. RockstarX3000
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    Agreed. If things were the other way around Rap God was his old song and Criminal was he new one, people would be praising Rap God and bashing Criminal.
     
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  17. Ezio926
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    Ezio926 EMINEM SUCKS

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    :Em6:
     
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  18. boyz n the suburbs
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    It's just cool to hate on him nowadays
     
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  19. DetroitDGAF
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    ye man emonim sux go bak to mmlp1 wen he wuz gud

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  20. Kanye Fish
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    Eminem fell off after infinite
     
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