Serious France Rejects Fear, Renews Commitment To Take In 30,000 Syrian Refugees

Started by Oldboy, Nov 18, 2015, in Life Add to Reading List

  1. Enigma
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    Enigma Civil liberties > Police safety

    Nov 18, 2015
    Just read the last 14 pages..... I have a headache now.
     
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  2. Lil Wayne
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    More than half of the U.S. isn't allowing Syrian refugee's

    http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnnnext/d---/assets/151117094456-v4-graphic-map-dark-states-accepting-syrian-refugees-exlarge-169.jpg
     
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  3. Enigma
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    Enigma Civil liberties > Police safety

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    Hard to say "not allowing them." States don't have the authority to dictate who comes into and out of the country, that's executive/legislative authority. Once the refugees are processed into the country, the state department along with other agencies looks for places to locate them. State department then calls up let's say Texas and asks "do you have space for refugees?" and what the governors office in Texas will say is "no." The White House still has the authority to locate them there anyway even if Texas says no so really, governors coming out and claiming they won't allow Syrian refugees in their state is bs. Once they're in the U.S. they're free to travel to any state just like the rest of us.
     
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  4. lil uzi vert stan
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    dude they weren't refugees lol
     
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  5. JMG
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    There seems to be evidence that they were though..
     
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  6. lil uzi vert stan
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    Following the Boston Marathon bombing, the Washington Post and others reported that the bombers were refugees. Other reports, however, have indicated that the Tsarnaev brothers were not refugees — they arrived in the United States as young children of an asylee. As a State Department official told Bloomberg, their father came to the United States on a tourist visa and applied for asylum.

    Most people aren’t familiar with the distinct, separate definitions of refugees and asylees (or asylum-seekers), but both groups in the U.S. tend to get a disproportionate amount of attention in the news for a variety of reasons. For example, the infamous 2013 Boston Marathon bombers were both immigrant refugees from Chechnya, which prompted some U.S. politicians to try to pass laws to lower the number of refugees allowed in the country. (See update above.) In September 2013, 25 DREAMers tried to re-enter the U.S. border from Mexico in order to ask for asylum in an attempt to bring attention to immigration issues as well as to obtain a legitimate legal status.

    Why do the definitions of refugees and asylees get confused?
    Refugees and asylees are often misunderstood labels that can mean two separate things, though they are frequently used together. Both refugee and asylum seekers must demonstrate:

    • They can no longer live in their home country due to a reasonable fear or proof they will be persecuted.
    • The reason for their persecution is related to their race, religion, nationality, membership in a social group, or political opinion.
    In these cases, “persecution” can mean anything from threats and harassment to violence, torture, unfair imprisonment, or denial of basic human rights. Refugees must apply for a green card after one year in the U.S., while asylees have the option to. They both receive the same rights as other green card holders (legal permanent residents).

    Characteristics of refugees
    The U.S. government has much tighter restrictions on who can be labeled a refugee, but there are many more refugees than asylees granted legal status per year. Each year, the President determines how many refugees will be allowed to enter the U.S. In fiscal year 2013, 69,930 refugees were authorized to enter the U.S., just 70 people shy of the 70,000 maximum. Iraq, Burma, and Bhutan sent the largest groups of refugees to the U.S. (Update: In fiscal year 2014, 69,986 refugees entered the United States. Numbers for 2015 are not yet available.)

    In order to be a refugee under U.S. immigration law,

    • You must fit the requirements regarding persecution (listed above)
    • You must secure refugee status while you are still outside the United States. You cannot seek refugee status once you are inside.
    • Your case is of special humanitarian concern to the United States.
    • You can be labeled admissible for legal entry into the United States.
    Characteristics of asylees
    For the last decade, the United States has been accepting between 20,000 and 30,000 asylum applicants per year. Popular countries of U.S. asylum seekers include China, Venezuela, and Ethiopia, Egypt, and Haiti.

    To seek asylum in the U.S. under current laws,

    • You fit the requirements of living under threat of persecution as a refugee (listed above).
    • You are already present in the United States or are seeking admission at a port of entry.
    One important difference is that asylees do not have to have legal immigration status to apply for protection. This is one of the reasons why it has become a popular method with DREAMers and undocumented immigrants who don’t have any other alternatives to seek legal status.

    There are two ways to apply for asylum in the U.S.: affirmatively (voluntarily or preemptively) or defensively. Defensive applicants are those who ask for asylum in response for being detained or apprehended by immigration enforcement. In 2013, slightly more than half of asylees gained refuge through affirmative applications.
    http://www.visanow.com/refugees-and-asylees/
     
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    Cap coming thru clutch
     
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  8. lil uzi vert stan
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    im better and smarter than narsh and i dont want u to equate us again
     
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  9. CODEiNE DEMON
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    O captain my captain
     
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    I have a good friend who is very involved on campus w/ politics and global issues. He's a political science major and is in a bunch of clubs dealing with politics. Today he came to me asking me if I'd like to sign a petition to support Syrian refugees because IA's Governor, Terry "Dumbfuck" Branstad ordered state agencies to halt any work on refugee resettlements because of the Paris attacks.

    I know what a lot of people, including my dad, tend to think when it comes to this issue, which I sort of agree with. They think that the safety of our country is the number one important factor, which it is, but it's also our duty to protect global humanitarian rights.

    I signed the petition with pride.
     
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  11. Isabella
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    I come from a family who was seeking to escape war in Iraq. I am not saying I share the same beliefs as every Iraqi citizen, but I (among majority) definitely believe Sadam being in power would leave Iraq in a much better state than it is today. I think of him as the lesser of evils. Sure many were happy when Saddam was gone for good, then again it could have been the hope that there would be something BETTER to come after it. Fast forward to today.. no where NEAR a democracy, nor are they ready for it., it needs guidance but lessons on its own in order to get to that position. It is too chaotic, the people in my opinion need a dictator.

    (I apologize for bringing this up again.. as it was brought up pages ago, I just had the urge)

    As for the original thread topic.. good on France, others should follow.
     
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    That's a big mistake for France. You gotta have a HUGE control on who's coming in your country, it's a war...
     
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  13. Myril
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    30k is like nothing at all lol. Nothing to brag about.
     
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    So why is Obama trying to reject a bill that will give us a better screening process? I'm curious on how his supporters will defend this action?
     
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    Ok this propaganda
     
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  16. slruim
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    Nah but they're at war with ISIS, not fleeing Syrian refugees.
     
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  17. Dking002
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    Good for them
     
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  18. TheBlackSheep
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    Terrorists are among the refugees
     
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    This guy was confirmed to be a former Free Syrian Army commander and the guy who posted this photo first apologised for linking this poor man with ISIS like 2 months ago. I can't believe you posted this as a FACT. How could you do this?
     
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  20. ArthurDW
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    France is already full of Muslims, won't change a much.
     
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