Kanye West i think

Started by Narsh, Feb 16, 2016, in Kanye West Add to Reading List

  1. jewtheiii
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    This isn't the first time Kanye has used public opinion to "fix" a song. Love Lockdown was edited at least once post release.

    I still don't understand why listeners gripe about having various versions of a song. Maybe you like the first one, great! Listen to that edit. Maybe you like the second, great! Listen to that edit.
     
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  2. WPG
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    and robocop. and welcome to heartbreak. and runaway. etc etc etc
     
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  5. jewtheiii
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    "If the delivery guy comes in the studio and Kanye likes him, he'll go, ‘Check this out, tell me what you think.'"
    - Q-TIP
     
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  6. Narsh
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    I never called it a performance art lol people did that for me

    The fact that no other artist has done this type of rollout on this scale IS what makes it interesting. Like, I'm not gonna sit here and be like "smh what kinda insane person does this" -- I KNOW most normal artists would never approach their work on this kind of platform so haphazardly. And if this beta testing approach was because Kanye was losing his talent as an artist, id be more worried than fascinated. But it's not...I think there are signs on TLOP that he's as good as ever. Which is why this entire process is a spectacle im buying into, rather than rejecting outright
     
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  7. Narsh
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    Well this time it's because the "final" product was supposedly out. I feel like the scope of what he's doing here is definitely different than what he's done in the past
     
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  8. Narsh
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    Yes? It's f---ing Kanye West doing this not saigon
     
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  9. lil uzi vert stan
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    so roughly when you joined our family :)

    so youve had two gfs. sucks about the peace corps one. i hate women like that
     
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  10. Goku187
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    I think you're doing Kanye a disservice by excusing this bs. If I turn my project in to my boss unfinished I'm not being new and innovative lol. It's pure sloppiness. He set a deadline for himself and couldn't finish it in that amount of time, period. A more reasonable person would've just delayed the album (Kanye is clearly losing his mind atm so reasonableness is out the window). Kanye instead stuck to his guns on the release date (uhh...sort of, not without confusion), but he's too much of a self-proclaimed perfectionist to leave the flaws as they are so he's still tinkering with it because...well, really just because he's an egomaniac. "I'm Kanye and I can get away with it", that sort of thing.

    This is to say nothing about the quality of the album which is a different discussion entirely - but also directly linked to this release "method", I think. I personally love TLOP but there's no denying it could be a better piece of work with more time. So many things here could be improved if rehauled (to me personally, Wolves is the most glaring...which is a bit ironic since we know he's been sitting on a better version of that for a year). But the album is out, the time for fixing it is over! If I've paid money for this album (theoretically), I shouldn't have to wait another week to get a finalized version of it while I just listen to glorified demos in the meantime. If Kanye fancies himself Picasso, fine, but it feels like he's literally making us watch paint dry.
     
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  11. Michael Myers
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    What swizz said /thread
     
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    Nah, it was an amicable break being at different stages in life and what not.
     
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  13. Narsh
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    well, this is why i dont look at it like kanye turning in an "unfishied" peice of work

    i think TLOP is a good, complete, project the way it is. probably 2nd last in his discog as of now, but i love it. so many great moments.

    i, personally, think he's making a statement by continuously editing this work. like, even if u think MBDTF is the 2nd best rap album of all time, kanye could've done this with that too. as in, he could reworked songs endlessly. not to say that they wouldve been better or worse..just saying that he could've. but didnt.

    so i think he's makign a conscious decision to approach his art this way for this one release. like i said, i dont think he'll ever do this again. i pray he doesnt. but i think this entire album/release is an exercise for him.
     
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  14. Narsh
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    exactly. and because it's kanye, people will remember.
    its not just about how it was released, its about the entire moment

    but whatever
     
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    so your point is that this isn't an accident? I mean....yeah....he didn't trip and fall and edit Wolves, lol. Of course it's intentional. And of course he could have done it with other albums and didn't - that was a good thing. I don't want 17 versions of Power, I want 1 finished Power. I believe he's making a mistake and I'm not sure why you don't
     
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  16. Narsh
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    agree

    although i also love low lights into highlights. but highlights itself is pretty messy.

    not big on waves as is. but i love FML/Real friends/wolves
     
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    because, like i said, i think this is a one time deal and im enjoying the experience
     
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  18. Goku187
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    of course Perry I don't steal
     
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  19. Narsh
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    to summarize tho:

    i dont believe he released a rushed unfinished version of an album and is scrambling to fix that.

    i believe he intended to release various versions of this album

    that's all m8
     
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    this should be in NSFW sxn with so much d-ck sucking
     
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