Politics Republican and Democratic Presidents

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  1. reservoirGod
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    Bush41
    Jan 20, 1993

    Dow jones 3,242
    Nasdaq 701
    S and P 435

    Unemployment rate 7.3%

    8 years of Clinton
    January 23 2001

    DOW JONES 10,588
    NASDAQ 2,770
    S and P 1,343

    Unemployment 4.2%

    8 years of Bush43
    January 20, 2009

    DOW JONES 7,949
    Nasdaq 1,440
    S AND P 805

    Unemployment 7.6

    7+ years of Obama
    Today

    DOW JONES 17,007
    Nasdaq 4,717
    S AND P 2,000


    Unemployment 4.9%
     
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    That's a very broad picture. The economy is cyclical and always has been. You could pick a point in any 8 year span where a number of factors in the nation look dire, but in the long run it is all positive.
     
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    Blair, what would have happened if since 1993 you pUT money into the stock market when a Democrat took office and pulled it out when a Republican came into office?

    How about if you only put money in when a Republican was in office and pulled it out during the Democrats terms?

    Think about it.


    Plus, you are more likely to be employed when a Democrat is in office.


    You're party and political philosophy is trash.

    I thank a God I don't even believe in that Obama has been President for the last 8 years.

    Instead of still fighting a war in Iraq and starting another war in Russia over Ukraine... we are fighting terrorist with Russia in Syria.

    There is no telling how f----- things would be right now with McCain or Romney in office.
     
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    Imagine what 4 years of trump could do
     
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    "In many cases, I probably identify more as Democrat," Trump told CNN's Wolf Blitzer in a 2004 interview. "It just seems that the economy does better under the Democrats than the Republicans. Now, it shouldn't be that way. But if you go back, I mean it just seems that the economy does better under the Democrats. ...But certainly we had some very good economies under Democrats, as well as Republicans. But we've had some pretty bad disaster under the Republicans."

    Trump in 2004, before he tapped into White Nationalist Republicans
     
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    Anyone who invests in the stock market for a short period of time should understand their risk and diversify accordingly regardless of who is in office. Just because the economy as a whole is down doesn't mean an investment in a carefully thought out portfolio will be. Plus the DOW and market as a whole are way up since 1993 no matter who has been in office. Like I said, specific points in time over 20 years don't paint even a fraction of the full picture.

    And now we aren't in Iraq but we have ISIS. There will always be someone we are fighting. Russia taking over Ukraine and shooting down passenger airplanes will have consequences in the long run, guaranteed.
     
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    Yes... the market is way up from 1993 during the Clinton and Obama Presidencies. They lost half their values during Bush43's term.

    Russia didn't take over the Ukraine they took over Crimea.

    We didn't have any consequences when we shot down an Iranian commercial jet, during the Reagan years.

    Do you want to know why we shot down an Iranian commercial jet then? We mistook it for an F-14 Tomcat... one of the F-14 Tomcats that Reagan sold to Iran to fund illegal wars in South America.


    Stop and think how f----- up that is.

    Do you think Obama would do something like that?
     
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    This is a dumb statement, the unemployment rate may currently be down but that does not say anything about you being more likely to be employed. Currently the work force participation rate is as low as it has ever has been.
     
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    The work participation rate is low because the baby boomers have reached retirement age... we have added 200,000+ new jobs ever month for almost 5 years. When Bush43 left office we were losing 800,000 jobs a month.
     
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    That's the thing about baby boomers... they are 52-70 years old now... they are at home collecting Social Security and their pension, medicaid, medicare...

    They consume nothing but the Conservative Entertainment Complex.

    They swallow the whole "stop the socialists" "REAL unemployment numbers"!

    Then they go out and vote and don't realize they are the socialist who are benifiting from my tax money and those who aren't participating in the jobs.
     
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    Mistakes don't excuse other mistakes and it's not like Reagan made the decision himself. It was a mistake by the captain of the ship who fired the missle.

    Crimea was Ukranian controlled.

    Regardless, this doesn't justify how broad your original statements are over a relatively short period of time. It actually proves nothing.
     
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    Reagan should not have sold next generation weapons to hostile nations. He should not have conducted illegal wars in South America. Reagan should have showed contrition for his complete amoral actions.
    The Reagan Administration was the most corrupt of all time and is held with God like regard by today's Republicans. That is disgusting.

    My original statement were ticker counts of markets and unemployment numbers. Hard to argue with them.
     
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    Gulf War and War on Terror...

    We need to stop looking out, and start looking in!

    Bern... 2016!
     
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    Ok @blair I see you're not getting it... so, I did some quick math.



    If you took $3,000 and invested $1,000 into the Dow Jones, $1,000 into the NASDAQ and $1,000 into the S and P the day that Bush41 left office.... then took it out the day Clinton left office... then reinvested when Obama assumed office... today you would have $6,930 in the Dow Jones account, $13,200 in the NASDAQ account, and $7,750 (not including dividends which would increase the windfall)... you'd have $27,880 from your initial $3,000 investment.


    Now if you did the same thing with $3,000 the day Bush43 assumed office and then sold the day he left office you'd have...

    $751 in your Dow Jones account and $520 in your NASDAQ account and $599 in your S and P account.

    So, on your Republican market adventure you'd have $1,870 from your initial $3,000 investment.

    You understand now?
     
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    For the last 40 years...
    Republican Presidents = s--- disaster economies
    f---ing insane foreign policy
    Less freedom
    Corrupt government

    Democratic Presidents = super strong economy
    Some what graceful foreign policy
    Expansion of freedom
    Republican lies and slander
     
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    Thanks, but no one invests that way and if they did, it would be stupid.

    Cyclicality, key term here. There will be another recession within the next couple years no matter who is President. Stock market will go up and down, but long term it will always be up.
     
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    Why would it be stupid? I showed you how you could have basically 10x your investment in 15 years... and avoid losing money when an a------ Republican is in office.


    Here's a free tip... when you and your idiot friends elect Trump... get out of the market.
     
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    Have you missed all my posts on Trump?
     
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    Your party's front runner? The White Nationalist who's heralded for being a businessman who loves America who has been bankrupt 4 times and manufactures goods and garments in Mexico and China?

    No, what did you say about him?
     
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    Pretty funny that @blair can't admit that Presidential policy has barring on US stock markets when it's obvious it does.


    You truely don't believe the President effects the US economy... are you stupid?
     
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