Mar 9, 2016

 

Mar 9, 2016

@M Solo i feel like i owe u an apology/eat crow... i was v dismissive of trumps chances months ago. now look where we are smh

 

Mar 9, 2016

The Republicans have always been starfuckers even when they feign their despise for "Hollywierd Liberal Values" and tell any famous liberal to "shut up and sing" when they express their political views.

Ted Nugent would be a contender for the GOP nomination...
He literally s--- his pants for a week to avoid Vietnam... adopted the child he was raping... a deadbeat dad who barely graduated high school and never had a job that didn't include playing a guitar.

 

Mar 9, 2016

Anyone who has been in politics for +30 years is going to change many many many positions... unless it is some kind of weird fringe single issue candidate. Some politicians like Romney and Trump can literally change positions on issues in under 24 hours... and Trump has changed parties several times... he's been a Democrat a lot longer than he has been a Republican and was 100% Pro-Choice until his late 60's and reversed his position when he decided to run for the GOP nomination.

There isn't anything inherently wrong with Wall Street when regulated correctly and monitored. She had no part of the Sub Prime Mortgage fiasco that nearly destroyed capitalism forever.

SuperPACs and super delegates have nothing to do with each other except for the word "super" and they sound scary to simpletons like you who get 100% of their information from Talk Radio and FoxNews.

Trump is literally making promises he can't keep because they are against international law and the US Constitution.

Yeah, I'd like you to keep going.

 

Mar 9, 2016

If it comes down to these 2, pretty sure I'm going with Hillary although not 100% on that yet. I don't really like either one of them.

By the way I feel like Trump's gonna be the next president unfortunately.

 

Mar 9, 2016

@GawDEDEDE

 

Mar 9, 2016

If i had a gun to my head, I'd say Hillary. Otherwise, BERNIE ALL THE WAY.

 

Mar 9, 2016

 

Mar 9, 2016

@reservoirGod

Holy non sequitur ridden argument!

Look, It seems like you've totally missed the point of this thread, and even my post, with your pro-Hillary tangents. You have the preconceived idea that I'm a right wing apologist who will defend even the grime of this party down to the bitter end, I'm not. The question is Hillary or Trump, you're not going to negate Hillary being the worse option of the two by making excuses for her transgressions.

You are correct about Nixon, and about Gaddafi, and technically correct about the capture of Bin Laden if you want to take what happened at face value. I'm well aware of the Watergate scandal, I'm not saying Clinton's actions are even to that level of extreme, but she deserves to be held accountable for the deletion of those e-mails. No matter how many secretaries of state did it before her, deleting those e-mails are still a major red flag. And "I delete 1000 emails today, I don't have to quit my job." Okay, WHAT? What's your job, IT? Front desk clerk? Or are you the secretary of state for the United States? Clearly there's different standards and precedences.

If you're going to defend Hillary's treatment of the Benghazi Embassy by saying "Bush did it too!" then you sound like every biased political pundit ever. That specific Embassy requested additional security and was flat out ignored by Hillary, their blood is on her hands, it was her direct responsibility and she failed. Excuse me if I prefer Trump, someone with no American blood on his hands, someone who has shown greater foreign sensibilities (Trump verbally opposing the War in Iraq, Hillary voting for it.)

Trump constantly gave warnings about destabilizing the middle east. Hillary has been in support of destabilizing the middle east and has been the cause of it on multiple occasions. Trump was 100% right on the War in Iraq, and whether you want to give her the blame she deserves or not, she played a role in the UN intervention in Libya/rebel takeover destabilized Libya, and had a direct impact on the Benghazi attack, and if you're saying it didn't you're just outright wrong.

I admit, implying that Gaddafi was "wrongfully painted as evil" was a mistake on my part, I shouldn't have brought that up. Although I disagree with how the US Intervention was handled, I'll rescind that comment, because pretty much everyone in power will be a result of the killing of innocent people in warfare, and in all fairness Trump is the only one outright saying he will do it, and saying why he advocates it. Our resolve is we want to stop terrorism, oppression and police the world, and Gaddafi's resolve was he wants to enforce Sharia Law. Major difference, yes, but I guess we should sever ties with every leader who's been behind Sharia Law. I do wonder though if Hillary Clinton gave back her 500k of Jewerly King Abdullah sent her!

You have me mistaken if you think I'm going to give George Bush excuses and completely harp on Hillary. Do you think just because I'm siding with a republican candidate I'm a thoughtless voter? I don't believe in the two party system, I don't care for that. You sound just like Marco Rubio saying "Trump isnt a 'real' Conservative." because he changes ideas and stances and endorsements. Hillary's problem is she's by far the most malleable candidate. She changes her tone on a whim, it's not even close. If Bernie said he thinks Marijuana should be decriminalized in a debate in Colorado and got a standing ovation, Hillary would probably agree. Trump over her any day.

 

Mar 9, 2016

@reservoirGod

As far as Trump making "promises he cant keep" in regards to foreign policy, the problem with how people perceive Trump's language is he calls for something and people mistake it as a promise. Trump said it himself, he's going to advocate for waterboarding, he's going to advocate for things that are deemed war crimes but he's justifying it as playing hard ball against terrorism. I myself don't exactly outright support going after ISIS families, although it's not exactly politically correct to outright say it. You just have to put roses on it like the last couple of presidents have done to protect people's feelings. But nothing he has suggested goes against the constitution from what I know, not even the temporary ban on Muslim Immigrants. The only thing that might be "impossible" is his deportation of 12 million illegal immigrants, because of due process. Again, a lot of what he says are proposals, they're ideas. You want to give Trump flack for making strong proposals when literally every politician has done it???

But of course the difference with Trumps proposals in economic change, and Hillary's, are affiliates. Trump also has far less restricting him than Hillary. Come on, do you really want me to get into the gory details as to who is in Hillary's corner and pocket? She's basically another Barack in that department. It's as Sanders said, how is Hillary going to regulate Wall Street and regulate the fed properly when they're in her pocket? How does that work? Trump doesn't have to even worry about protecting corporate affiliates, but it doesn't take a simpleton to realize a SuperPAC can directly influence political decisions because the line between politics and business has been blurred.

You seem to have far too much faith in a woman like Hillary, I don't know what makes her more trustworthy to you. Is it because Trump uses mean words and everyone calls him a racist? I don't recall Trump ever saying he wants to bring those black "super predators" to heel. I won't take those comments out of context, she was talking about g--- violence, but you gotta love the selective outrage. I'm taking Trump over her for now, but who knows maybe on the debate stage Hillary can sway me. I'm not afraid of admitting I'm wrong about somebody.

 

Mar 9, 2016

Hillary is too d--- cheesy

 

Mar 9, 2016

It's not even the fact that Trump is making "promises he can't keep," the policies he's suggesting are just bad and quite frankly dangerous. Building a wall on the Mexican/U.S border & forcing Mexico to pay for it (some how) would worsen the immigration issue. Putting soldiers on the ground in the Middle East to secure oil fields that aren't ours and utilize them for our own benefit would anger our middle eastern allies. Banning Muslims from entering the U.S. (Somehow... I don't even think this is possible) would also complicate relations with our allies in the Middle East. His tax plan to cut taxes primarily for the rich follows the same failed "trickle down economics" ideology. I can keep going...

 

Mar 9, 2016

Labels are not good for anyone, I believe in opportunity for all... Which other candidate supports that?

Trump has no real understanding about policy... He would set us back years in terms of foreign relation.
Hilary is the epitome for crony capitalism. She will say anything to sound progressive.
Cruz believes that God spoke to him in a dream, and that the Democratic party has undermined religious values.

How is Bernie at the bottom of the Barrel?

 

Mar 9, 2016

hillary tbh, anybody as long as it isnt bernie fine by me tho

 

Mar 9, 2016

I literally gave a rebuttal to everything you brought up. I don't think you know what a non sequitur is.

Look, It seems like you've totally missed the point of this thread, and even my post, with your pro-Hillary tangents.
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the point was for you to just throw out a lot of bs and no one to respond?

You have the preconceived idea that I'm a right wing apologist who will defend even the grime of this party down to the bitter end, I'm not.
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I said you get your information from a bias source, the Conservative Entertainment Complex. Which you do... that's why you are so Ill informed... yet feel superior to all the libtards... amirite? Yes.

question is Hillary or Trump, you're not going to negate Hillary being the worse option of the two by making excuses for her transgressions.
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Making excuses? I flat out told you you were wrong about the so called "transgressions" because you have been fed propaganda that you swallow whole without question... because you're gullible.

You are correct about Nixon, and about Gaddafi,
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yeah, no s---, stupid.

and technically correct about the capture of Bin Laden if you want to take what happened at face value.
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Holy s---! You're a f---ing conspiracy theorist!

I'm well aware of the Watergate scandal,
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you know about one of the most famous events in US history? Are you a proffesor in the Ivy League?

I'm not saying Clinton's actions are even to that level of extreme, but she deserves to be held accountable for the deletion of those e-mails.
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the House Select Commitee on the Benghazi Attack has spent more money and more time than the 2013 Boston Marathon bombing, the 2000 attack on the USS Cole, the 1998 embassy bombings in Kenya and Tanzania, the 1996 Khobar bombing, the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing , and even the attacks of September 11, 2001 (9/11 commision), let alone the the 13 Embassy attacks during Bush43's War on Terrorism that ended with 60 deaths that didn't warrant Select Commitees... seems political if you think about it... or even if you didn't think about and heard House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R) proudly proclaimed that the committee had drove Hillary's approval rating down (thanks for spending my tax payer money on dirty political tricks, a------) or when Rep. Richard Hanna (R) said the committee was "designed to go after her." or when commitee investigator Bradley Podlisa said it was a "partisan investigation"... what a sham of justice... Hillary didn't lie to the families or anyone else... and partisan douche bag politicians (R) played on the grief of fallen service men to play gotcha games because they have such a hard on for Clinton... if she had done anything wrong whatsoever they would have found it and censured her... they couldn't and they dragged it on and on while the disinformation arm of the Republican party (the CEC) dragged her name in the mud. The same thing is happening with the emails... if there was anything there with a Republican majority in the house and the senate against a Democratic front runner that they have hated for 35 years... they would find something that was actionable... but they can't and won't and they waste more taxpayer money while FoxNews tells you how bad and sneaky Hillary is... and you'll eat it up, because you're stupid and that's what you want to believd.

no matter how many secretaries of state did it before her, deleting those e-mails are still a major red flag.
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to you because you hate Hillary and you don't even know who Rice, Powell or Albright are.

If you're going to defend Hillary's treatment of the Benghazi Embassy by saying "Bush did it too!" then you sound like every biased political pundit ever.
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Because in your world (the one that is painted for by the CEC, there is no such thing as a precedence, f---ing moron.)

That specific Embassy requested additional security and was flat out ignored by Hillary,
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do you realize how many US Embassies there are on this Earth and how often they make request and the logistics to fill those requests? No, because the CEC made it sound like that was the Secretary of States one and only job to protect one random Embassy that is half way around the world? Oh ok, then.

their blood is on her hands,
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you and other super partisan Republicans make it sound like Hillary lined them up and shot them in the back of the head... the blood is on the hands of the MOTHER f---ing TERRORIST, r-----.

This is so f---ing stupid... I'm going to have to finish it later... I wish you had a mind to change, but you're a f---ing drone.

 

Mar 9, 2016

trump would never beat either of them

 

Mar 9, 2016

Just to further build on this post, trump said this today:

 

Mar 9, 2016

hit 10 quota!!

 

Jun 6, 2016

Promise fulfilled.

 

Jun 7, 2016

I think people are underestimating how aware of his ridiculousness trump really is. It's all a act to get in the Whitehouse. I mean the dude went from being liberal on abortion to saying women should be punished for getting abortions. He went from talking about how amazing Hillary is and how it's a privilege to know her, but now she is the worst secretary of state ever. He literally is the exact definition of the establishment of politician. He switches positions when it makes sense politically (ted Cruz was great at the beginning of the season, then he was bad cause he was a bit of a threat, and now he's good again lol). Who knows how trump actually feels about politics lol but the point is he is very obviously manipulating our dumb US population and it's working