Eminem Best Posts: When Did Eminem Sell Out?

Goku187 · May 10, 2016

May 10, 2016
Definitely Recovery

Earlier first singles like Real Slim Shady, Without Me, Just Lose It......these were definitely designed for commercial consumption, but they didn't represent Eminem compromising himself artistically. They were still pretty typical Eminem songs at their core. (Just Lose It is godawful, but that's because he was a terrible writer in 2004, not because he was selling out.)

Recovery marked the point where he started working with pop stars that he thought could get him the radio play he got in his prime. It worked fairly well in terms of getting him attention, but it's hard to deny that it was a hypocritical move on its face. Relapse is a worse album than Recovery, but it at least represents Eminem doing what he wanted to do with his music; Recovery is a total capitulation to what he thought the masses wanted to hear. The Eminem of 2001 would've openly mocked the Facebook-quote-ready, put-ya-lightas-up manufactured inspiration of Not Afraid and the sleek radio-ready collaborations with Pink and Rihanna, but in 2010 he used them to his financial advantage and he's been doing it ever since.

Soldier · May 10, 2016

May 10, 2016

MaliktheJamaicanStan said

This is f--king bullshyt.What the f--k are you all on about?
Are you saying that joining a record label is selling out? should Eminem have f--king stayed poor in his trailer park home? Or should he take an opportunity and try to sell his music to people
Is MMLP selling out, because you might not notice, but the Title isn't SSLP2 it specifically dropped the shady name to show less shady and more em, without being too radically different. If you think he started getting emotional because he was selling out, then you are also a f--king r-----, as the image you have in your head of slim shady was just an alter ego created to make the 6 detroit rappers form D12.

HOW THE f--k DO YOU EXPECT LOSE YOURSELF TO SOUND WHEN IT WAS SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED TO BE PART OF THE 8 MILE OST??

As for Recovery, maybe, the f--s told him that relapse s----d and he realized that his personal, and emotional s--- sold more. Doing songs with pink and nicki minaj (well, that nicki song did have authentic eminem verses) was the only point one could ever argue he sold out. Songs like Not Afraid, were in his nature from long before, Rapping about window pane's and bitching in a video with rihanna was'nt, ill admit that. in fact, contrary to what you f--s think Relapse>Encore and Recovery. Yeah, he screamed, and sometimes without any flow, and with a s-----y jamaican accent at times, but the lyrical creativity was there, saying "hey, im not fully back, but im here somewhere, and im coming to r--- the game again" so recovery, where he was reteaching himself to rap had a few good points. And recovery was commercialized, to get him back in the game.

That is me saying recovery was his worst album, as relapse might have been s--- overall, but his verses were authentic eminem, and were without flow, but d---, those bars. MMLP2 is his strongest point since TES. and in my opinion its actually a better album, but thats for another day.

So yeah, he might have sold out at taht point, but 2001 em?? just f--k off
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Breathe.

Narsh · May 10, 2016

May 10, 2016
after infinite

Tenski · May 10, 2016

May 10, 2016
The one where he was rapping about window pane

Bman · May 10, 2016

May 10, 2016
Personally I feel it was with Recovery. You could say with Encore he got lazy and just went to the bank, putting the album out only because the label needed him to. But if you had told me in 2000 that Eminem would some day make songs like LTWYL and NA, I would have laughed in your face.

@Immy @Narsh @Koolo @Nori gonna need you to bring some logic to this conversation less we get flooded by a tidal wave of Stan's.

And to any em fans who get offended- selling out doesn't necessarily mean falling off.
Definition from Wikipedia: Selling out is a common idiomatic pejorative expression for the compromising of a person's integrity, morality, authenticity, or principles in exchange for personal gain, such as money.
So like making records just to get a hit. Discuss.

SHUDEYE · May 10, 2016

May 10, 2016

Soldier said

Breathe.
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Haven't you heard? Em>your favourite rapper

Immy · May 10, 2016

May 10, 2016
Tagging narsh and logic in the same sentence

Goldy · May 10, 2016

May 10, 2016
I don't think he's a sellout, I think Paul has a lot to do with it

Worm · May 10, 2016

May 10, 2016
He sold out when he prematurely ejaculated on Mariah. He used to prematurely ejaculate on white trash girls, but lost himself along the way.

Michael Myers · May 10, 2016

May 10, 2016

Swizz said

Definitely Recovery

Earlier first singles like Real Slim Shady, Without Me, Just Lose It......these were definitely designed for commercial consumption, but they didn't represent Eminem compromising himself artistically. They were still pretty typical Eminem songs at their core. (Just Lose It is godawful, but that's because he was a terrible writer in 2004, not because he was selling out.)

Recovery marked the point where he started working with pop stars that he thought could get him the radio play he got in his prime. It worked fairly well in terms of getting him attention, but it's hard to deny that it was a hypocritical move on its face. Relapse is a worse album than Recovery, but it at least represents Eminem doing what he wanted to do with his music; Recovery is a total capitulation to what he thought the masses wanted to hear. The Eminem of 2001 would've openly mocked the Facebook-quote-ready, put-ya-lightas-up manufactured inspiration of Not Afraid and the sleek radio-ready collaborations with Pink and Rihanna, but in 2010 he used them to his financial advantage and he's been doing it ever since.
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This /thread

rapmusik · May 10, 2016

May 10, 2016
after relapse tanked I feel like he kinda went towards a direction that the label may have recommended just to be safe. highly doubt it was just "the songs started to sound different so I scrapped Relapse 2 and made Recovery".

Narsh · May 10, 2016

May 10, 2016

Immy said

Tagging narsh and logic in the same sentence
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Yeah keep me as far away from that Rubiks cube fanatic as possible

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