May 17, 2016 Depends on how ambitious it is and how much it failed I guess. Id say projects like TPAB defintely deserve their fair share of praise. Coloring book? Maybe not so much but idk yet Thought you weren't a big acid rap fan/were caping for chance post ultra light beams. I'm happy I'm wrong though And idk I think chance fans are split right now. CB is good enough to be in the discussion for most and ambitious enough to easily place it above acid rap for some Agreed this isn't offensively bad or anything. I enjoy a good amount of it despite it being too clunky overall Chance is great on the intro and closer or how great, Angels, etc
May 17, 2016 i like the project, but he just loses me at times. the album def paints a pretty cool aesthetic though, i like how one track yet diverse the project is. idk about over rated, i haven't listened to it enough. but @Meero is right, this aint no MKL
May 17, 2016 mkl isn't anywhere near as good as coloring book or gkmc. It's an above average album that you can listen to in your car, thats it. That s--- was a poor attempt at trying to replicate the vintage Dre's sound
May 17, 2016 i have never heard an album capture the essence everything that made the west coast great better than MKL. MKL is on par with the game's documentary, and YG did it without the best rapper alive at the time.
May 17, 2016 When I heard this I quickly assumed you wouldn't care for it. I prefer this kind of thing, personally. It's a little pandering, or cute, but I dig (so far) the musicality of it, how it blurs genres, and the general aesthetics. Sometimes I wonder if you instinctively dislike "happy" rap, and prefer a more nihilistic version. That may short change you, in your view, I suspect. You cited Drake's misogyny the other day as worse in quality than other brands of sexism in rap. As in - and I'm paraphrasing - his entitled bro vision of women is less compelling than other artists. I feel like there's tension there b/c - from what I've read - you aren't critiquing Drake on a critical level most times... you ARE chiding him morally. Are artists like Drake and Chance just inherently too corny for your tastes? To answer your original question, I think it's a question of what's interesting. Plenty of films are total misfires, but are packaged w so much subtext/craft, they become secret successes. Modest successes are like a solid mainstream film, imo -- there's only so much you can think about, even if they're the best distilled version of what they are.
May 17, 2016 If you think Mustard sounds like Dre you're gonna have to leave this discussion alone lol
May 17, 2016 Well to take your Drake point first: my problems with Drake are critical ones, and as I tried--and evidently failed, which is fair--to explain to you the other day, it's not that his brand of sexism (or broader treatment of women) is less interesting per se, it's that so much of his music hinges directly on it, AND it's not interesting. (I also think he's a bad rapper/lead vocalist, and I didn't really address that in the short capsule review I did of it, but that's where my problems with him really begin and end.) I reviewed Coloring Book, I'll link you in a few minutes. You're right, I don't like rap, or any art really, that's this relentlessly sunny. But I don't need nihilism--I like Acid Rap, which has moments that are basically as happy as the stuff on here, but are qualified and held in contrast to grittier things. There has to be balance of some sort, not just in rap.
May 17, 2016 Funny considering the fact that you ignore all the other albums that capture the essence of everything that make other genres great (Coloring book for example). As for mkl, it's actually the perfect example of an album that is ambitious, but fail to deliver. The production is way too garbage for that.
May 17, 2016 shut the f--- up you faithless whor-, im gonna jump on my ultra light beam and listen to this masterpiece of gospel music
May 17, 2016 I feel like you've been questioning your whole life purpose since you made that thread. Its not that deep man
May 17, 2016 I love trolling but on a more serious note, this is extremely disrespectful towards the west coast artists that actually making good music. YG is an imitator, and a bad one. You can literally compare him to Hopsin trying to be Eminem 2.0
May 17, 2016 But an unsigned sympathic young guy rapping about God with melodic music, how do you not expect this to be overrated srsly
