Politics Best Posts: S80 POLL: Donald Trump vs. Hillary Clinton

  1. reservoirGod
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    reservoirGod reckless adventurer.

    May 25, 2016
    Trump won the Republican nomination because he is a misogynistic racist... not despite that fact.

    He is a moron who is completely unqualified.

    I watched his stump speech after he won a primary... he kept calling Cruz "Lyin' Ted", then he said "listen folks, we literally export nothing to Japan. Nothing. Do you believe that?"

    And I absolutely didn't believe it... so, I looked it up and we export $60,000,000,000 worth of goods to Japan a year.

    So, either Trump just constantly lies all the time about everything... even when he accuses someone else of lying... or he is just pulling s--- out of his a--- and he has no idea what he is talking about and to lazy to research it... or both?


    Either way he is 100% unqualified for the office that Washington, Lincoln and FDR held.




    If he didn't have the appeal of his racism and misogyny... he would just be a dumb a------ who didn't know what he was talking about and no one would vote for him.
     
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  2. lil uzi vert stan
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    May 25, 2016
    this is absolute amateur hour, and a lot of ppl are embarrassing themselves by siding with trump. honestly, i hate editorializing, but if you support trump, you should rly be disenfranchised. the founders were rightly nervous about empowering the people too much..
     
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  3. reservoirGod
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    May 25, 2016
    In the 70's Trump systematically discriminated against "colored" people by denying every single one of their applications for his apartments, in 1989 Trump launched an expensive media war against the "Central Park 5" a group of black kids accused of r---... calling for the reinstatement of the Death Penalty in New York State to end their lives... they were later found innocent.

    In the last year Trump has retweeted several tweets from White Nationalist and Supremacists, including this neonazi propaganda:
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    But yeah... calling Mexicans rapists and saying he will block all Muslims entry into the US is racist, too.
     
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  4. WPG
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    WPG sxn80 Rory Gilmore

    May 29, 2016
    But really, Hillary's positions on some policy and social issues have changes in the thirty years she's been a public figure. I'll concede a step beyond that: she's flipped on things more quickly and more recently, like the TPP, which I think we can all agree was a cynical way of going about things. If someone like Warren, or even Biden, were running against her, I might not vote for her. But they're not--she's the nominee, and we're talking about her vs. Donald Trump. As a number of people, esp. Res, have pointed out in this thread, Trump is cartoonishly unqualified for the job, and supporting him over Clinton requires an insane amount of mental gymnastics.
     
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  5. WPG
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    WPG sxn80 Rory Gilmore

    May 29, 2016
    Hillary was a successful lawyer, a senator from the second-most populous state in the country, and a secretary of state. She was also living in the White House during the last real economic boom. She's supremely qualified. Trump is a racist fear monger who can't even put all his vitriol into concrete policy proposals. If you're voting for him, what are you voting for? The notion that he might figure it out once he's in office? Do you think the Presidency is that easy? You think it doesn't take decades of preparation?
     
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  6. Goku187
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    May 29, 2016
    Get back to me when Hillary pretends to be her own publicist. I won't sit here and tell you Hillary's never lied about anything. But Trump's lies are constant. Daily. About big things, about small things. He's absolutely pathological. He has no reason to lie about his support for the Iraq War (Republicans aren't going to come after him for it, and Hillary can't either!), but he does it anyway.

    What's happening here is you got caught spouting "facts" that aren't true and you just...don't care. This is a very common thing with Trump supporters. The media will get blamed, or the issue will get downplayed, or attention will get diverted back to his opponent. But you just used this as a major selling point for Trump (one of three or four, you said), and when I prove that you're full of s---, you just shrug and move on! Absolutely shameless.
     
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  7. reservoirGod
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    Are you f---ing kidding me?



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    This is vile neonazi propaganda... it should be viewed with the same scorn as a flyer that says "Jews drink the blood of Arab children." in Palestine.


    In the time frame that he retweeted this, he was actually retweeting more people that identified themselves as White Nationalists than people who didn't.


    It's obvious to anyone who isn't racist, when Obama was elected Trump left the Democratic Party and became the leader of a birther movement to try to prove my President wasn't American... he even lied and said he had private investigators in Hawaii and they had found evidence to prove that my President wasn't American.

    All your gobbledygook wall of texts doesn't hide your ignorance it just makes your stupid f---ing posts a chore to read.
     
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  8. reservoirGod
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    reservoirGod reckless adventurer.

    May 27, 2016
    This is the actual quote of how Trump officially started his Presidential campaign:


    "When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.”


    He made it sound like a Mexican Goverment program to relocate all the d--- dealers and r--ist to America to r--- Americans and sell them drugs and give us other problems... that accidentally mistakenly lets good people in every once in awhile.


    The truth is undocumented workers are mostly just motivated hard workers that come here to be exploited by Trump and other 1%ers like him for profit.


    There isn't any CNN headline or story that reads "Trump says all Mexicans are rapists!" like you lied about... Lyin' Lamont.
     
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  9. Goku187
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    May 26, 2016
    I think there's a very flawed line of thinking that is gathering steam that says "no one expected Trump to be the nominee....so ignore anyone who says the odds are stacked against him in a general election"

    There's a big, big difference between the primary and the general election. Is it true that a lot of people thought that Trump would not be the nominee? Absolutely. But those people were all IGNORING THE POLLS. The polls, since July of 2015, gave Trump large, enduring leads on a national level and in the early states. The only exceptions were a brief surge from Ben Carson and some good numbers for Ted Cruz at certain points in the race (but never a lead, at least not a commanding one). Overall, the numbers overwhelmingly pointed to a Trump victory - we were all just in denial that it was going to last. Your statement that the cycle is erratic feels true - but it actually isn't. Trump was the frontrunner since July, and he won the nomination.

    The people who are now saying Trump is likely to lose in November aren't ignoring the polls at all. Polls show that his unfavorable ratings are historically high. Polls show that he has horrific, perhaps unprecedented numbers with females and minorities, particularly Latinos (one of the fastest growing pieces of the electorate). Polls show that he loses to Hillary Clinton in swing states - h---, polls even show new states coming into play (with Trump's leads in Georgia and Arizona being within the margin of error). Polls have consistently shown a strong national lead for Hillary as well - until the past week of course, when Trump is enjoying perhaps the best moment of his campaign (Republicans getting in line) and Hillary dealing with the worst (Bernie Bros getting bitter as the end nears). This is a notoriously period in the election to poll, so I wouldn't put too much stock into these new leads unless they endure through June and into July as we head towards the convention. If he keeps a lead for that long, then yes, we should probably worry. But in all likelihood, things will revert back to the norm, which says that the numbers just don't add up for Trump. In terms of demographics, in terms of favorable/unfavorable ratings, in terms of the national vote, in terms of the electoral college - however you want to look at it.
     
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  10. reservoirGod
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    May 26, 2016
    This election reminds me a lot of another US Presidential election... 2000.

    On the Republican side you had a guy that seemed kind of dumb, but had a famous name and came from a family that had hundreds of millions of dollars... no not Trump, George W. Bush.

    Then the Democrats had Al Gore... that everyone thought was kinda boring and wasn't excited about... he kinda had an annoying voice and spent decades promoting the internet (which was exclusively for virgin nerds at the time) and was worried about climate change (global warming, s--- yeah! Get my tan on).

    Al Gore did win the popular vote... and why not? He was a successful US Senator and Vice President during an Administration that had experienced 8 years of peace and prosperity and unprecedented economic growth.

    He also won the Electoral College... except the Republicans fought to throw out a ton of votes that were clearly for Gore... and they fought it all the way to the Supreme Court... a Court that was represented by 7 Judges appointed by Republican Presidents and 2 appointed by Democratic Presidents.

    They ruled against common sense and for Bush.

    So, what was the big deal?

    Bush failed to prevent 9/11.
    Passed the PATRIOT ACT, which compromises the US Constitution.
    Invaded Iraq on bad intelligence.
    Appointed his friend an Arabian Horse Show Judge to head FEMA.
    2,000 people subsequently die in Hurricane Katrina.
    Allows Usama bin Laden to escape to Pakistan after bombing Afghanistan into chaos.
    Makes torture official US policy.
    Presides over the biggest American financial collapse in 80 years.
    Leaves office a complete failure of a President.




    Elections have consequences.
     
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  11. WPG
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    WPG sxn80 Rory Gilmore

    May 25, 2016
    Uh, no.
     
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  12. reservoirGod
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    May 25, 2016
    Looking past his racist and sexist tendencies is one thing... how do you look past the fact that he is a thinned skin moron who gets into twitter fights with D-list celebrities and thinks the articles in the National Enquire are real?

    He's a 70 year old orange man with the dumbest most insecure comb over who is worried people think his hands are small and makes extremely creepy remarks about his daughters all the time.

    I'd be embarrassed as f--- if he was my grandpa.
     
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  13. reservoirGod
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    May 25, 2016
    Then why are you voting for the party that is for limiting voting rights?
     
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    May 25, 2016
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    Alchemist34 DO MY HEAD

    Jun 16, 2016
    How old are you and where do you live
     
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  16. Goku187
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    Jun 14, 2016
    Imagine a world where Obama says John Roberts can't judge cases related to the Obama administration because Roberts is white

    Then imagine current Trump defenders coming to Obama's defense after he makes these comments

    Sort of hard to imagine isn't it
     
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  17. lil uzi vert stan
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    May 31, 2016
    @Swizz and @reservoirGod doing pulitzer worthy work itt

    One thing I'm legitimately curious about is whether any of this thread's Trump supporters would consider voting for Johnson-Weld? definition of a 'protest' vote and, theyre like... actually qualified?
     
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  18. Goku187
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    May 25, 2016
    If you don't support gay marriage, you actually ARE homophobic tbh
     
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  19. WPG
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    WPG sxn80 Rory Gilmore

    May 25, 2016
    ...yes, he's literally done that.
     
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  20. reservoirGod
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    I would hope Hillary would be more of the same as Obama... the country was in f---ing shambles before Obama took office. We are better off by almost every measurable metric.
     
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