May 30, 2016

I still stand by the belief that Eminem "Renegaded" harder on Forever than actual Renegade.

• Renegade was originally a Royce/Em track and Jay Z hopped on later. The feature was just a couple of classic Eminem verses in his prime rather than intentionally written to compete with one of the greatest rappers alive.
• Forever is Eminem's first (and best) great verse post hiatus/accent. No one expected him to deliver a verse at that caliber. I still can't believe he did.
• Renegading Drake, Wayne, and Kanye all at the same time, in 2009, was more impressive than Jay Z.. on a song Jay Z purchased. Almost every song released by Eminem in 2001 was on Renegade levels.
• Eminem admittedly wrote Wayne and Kanye diss tracks that we'll unfortunately never hear.
• Forever is bigger than Renegade ever was.
• Forever reestablished Eminem as a GOAT rapper after he came back with a weird accent and an obession over serial killers and pedophilia.

 

May 30, 2016

Hard to think of a feature where he didn't outshine the other artist. Drop The World, No Love, Forever, Where I'm At, just to name a few. No Love is probably the best example of him smoking the other artist.

 

May 30, 2016

Great post. One thing I find interesting about Forever is you had the best rapper from the early 2000s (Eminem), the mid-2000s (Kanye), the late 2000s (Wayne), and the 2010s (Drake, which we didn't know yet, as the song came out in 09 just as Drake was starting to blow up), and Em shined the brightest in that all-star lineup. Also Forever was clearly when Em made the switch from his goofy/accent Relapse style to the more serious Em we've seen in the 2010s.

 

May 30, 2016

Renegade is kinda a loose term now tbh but songs where he has clearly outshone the others

 

Jun 3, 2016

That's just one line... but after all it's a good verse

 

May 30, 2016

For a song with three superstars like Levine, 50 and Em this s--- is just terrible. Glad it was scrapped.