Jun 28, 2016 Yeah Pato thinks he knows more about the reasons of criminality committed by immigrants in Sweden than a Swedish professor in criminology because he read some articles from q/a-Islam.org and religionofpeace.com
Jun 28, 2016 wait did pato actually say there's no systematic discrimination against immigrants in europe lmaoooooooo
Jun 28, 2016 That's a poor argument. Islam is based off the Quran. Anything done in the name of that ideology should first and foremost be linked to whatever is said in that book. Instead of looking at what a criminologist thinks, i think it would actually be more accurate to look at the Muslims' own justifications for their criminal activity and anti-western values to see the root of the problem. An verses that say a woman's opinion is worth half a man's speak for themselves.
Jun 28, 2016 Oh come on. This is pathetic. The Bible advocates slavery, segregation, stoning, etc. We're not going to start legislating based on the scripture we think someone might loosely follow. That's now how laws work.
Jun 28, 2016 Yeah but sharia law entails some of those things. luckily America separates church from government like you said
Jun 28, 2016 The religion is separate from the state no? The immigrants come from places where the laws are directly based off teachings in the Quran. That's also a bad argument since it is an indisputable fact that Islam produces alot more anti-social behavior and terrorists than Christianity does.
Jun 28, 2016 criminality from Muslims isn't done in name of Islam lol We're not talking about terrorism here
Jun 28, 2016 Fundamentalist Christians will protest your funeral Fundamentalist Muslims will k--- you for you sins You are american no? Did the Orlando shootings not clearly make the distinction between the two? Or are you in denial of the facts again.
Jun 28, 2016 Fun fact: fundamentalist Christians killed Muslims during centuries, with the approval of the pope I don't think IS gets the approval of the important figures in Islam, since they're fighting them I know crusades may sound kinda old to you but the Qur'an and the bible didn't change
Jun 28, 2016 But they are raised in households whose value systems disregard western laws and contradict western values. The book the read everyday tells them very explicit thing. And this is the book they regard as the truth. Not all Muslims follow them to a tee obviously, but its ignorance to claim that it makes no contribution and even more ignorant to think it won't make potential criminals in the future. Islam as an ideology is flawed. Simply banning it ofc is not the solution, but there should be efforts to control the problem. 'God' isn't the answer either. It's promoting free thought and skepticism.
Jun 28, 2016 Yes, but those events are overwhelmingly dated. How much would you have to search to find the last Christianity motivated killing? Compared with the last 30 ideologically based terror attacks. You are comparing something that was once a problem in an era where it was considered fine. Something that no longer happens, it is dishonest to put it at the same level as something that is currently happening mere weeks or days apart
Jun 28, 2016 Well the catholic IRA attacks weren't that long ago. There's currently no war in western countries and war is what brings out religious extremism. There is in Africa though Christian militias killing muslims and viceversa
Jun 28, 2016 Wait, what is it done in? ISIS and al qaeda view killing people as killing non believers in the name in Islam, isnt it just a more violent extremist interpretation of Islam?
Jun 28, 2016 Who cares if they are dated, you use Isis to prove the Qur'an is worse than the bible because there are more jihadist terrorists. I tell you that it isn't true because Christians have murdered a lot of people in name of the bible too. The Qur'an and the bible always stayed the same, but the people reading them changed through the century's.
Jun 28, 2016 We were talking about casual criminality amongst the Muslim community in Europe and then genghis said that that was done in name of Allah. I can assure you that when that Arab stole my phone in the metro he didn't scream Allahu'akhbar before he ran away lol
Jun 28, 2016 Also al Qaeda and Isis are misinterpretations of Islam, not radical interpretations of Islam
