Jun 28, 2016 im not using it as an argument against immigration, dont let WPG tell you otherwise. I was just pointing out that it happens, there have been quite a few cases of this happening with immigrants in these European countries.
Jun 28, 2016 You have no arguments at all, just a bunch of links that don't even demonstrate what you say
Jun 28, 2016 @Pato v2 You post a Wikipedia article about statistics of r--- in Sweden, to prove Muslim immigrants r--- more than other people. In your Wikipedia article, not one word was about immigrants or Muslims. Not one.
Jun 28, 2016 I try to talk to HHTG seriously but Jesus Christ he can be thickheaded. "Immigrants r--- people" well yeah, every population commits r---, it's not increased for immigrants and that's a nonsense, fear-mongering argument to curb immigrations. "Oh so you're saying r--- doesn't exist? You support rapists?" Go back to middle school, dude.
Jun 28, 2016 I didnt say that r--- happens more for immigrants.. You should calm down and stop coming out with these bizarre assumptions
Jun 28, 2016 "pfff, you just posted a bunch of biased links that don't demonstrate what you just said!" Well, I said that muslim inmigrants are heavily responsable of a good portion of the r--- rates in the EU, and then posted 4 links proving how the factors that I mentioned before cause this to happen The first are r--- Sweden statistics categorized by demographic groups The second is a Wikipedia link feeding this idea with the general numbers The third is a mention about a r--- practice that has been going on in Germany, product of this culture And last but not least, the fourth article is about the already well known New Year Eve cases I can be wrong though, that's why I'm waiting for solid arguments, which you're not providing
Jun 28, 2016 Then bringing up r--- serves exactly zero purpose. The only reason you would even mention r--- would be to suggest that increased immigration leads to increased r---.
Jun 28, 2016 Furthermore, Swedish law defines r--- very broadly... You can find more info about that on internet, but it's easier to post some random stats from wikipedia.
Jun 28, 2016 No sir. Thats a flaw in your logic. Bringing up r--- serves a big purpose because it still happens, and it involves immigrants, so it doesnt matter whether you wanna talk about it or not. I think not having mass immigration would mean, by definition, some of these r--- incidents between citizens and immigrants wouldnt be happening. I'm not sure, truly, how often it is happening in places like sweden but I do know that some of these immigrants ARE doing it and it wouldn't be happening at the same rate, if these countries had a lower immigration policy etc
Jun 28, 2016 What was the point of the second link? Because all I learned was that Sweden has a high r--- rate, nothing else. I don't see what it could bring to your thesis "Muslim immigrants r--- a lot"
Jun 28, 2016 No, that's a nonsense argument. Do you have any idea how the overwhelming majority of rapes occur?
Jun 28, 2016 Would you mind explaining this? How does Sweden define "r---"? Do the other EU countries with fairly similar issues suffer of this too? Was just complimenting my point, and how the goverment of these countries fail to solve the core conflict here Furthermore, no source of media is 100% unbiased, they all try to cover their interests and fit whatever preconceived ideals they already have I'm just interested in discussing the information I posted
Jun 28, 2016 + Your first site was a f---ing WordPress that everyone can make so it's not really a credible source, it's called muslimstatistics which could mean it's quite biased, and they start their whole article with a percentage that " has been anonymously confirmed by Swedish polish in a phone conversation." Hmmmmm what a source
Jun 28, 2016 http://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/swedens-r----crisis-isnt-what-it-seems/article30019623/ Knowledge is the key
Jun 28, 2016 also the standard for whats considered r--- is different in places like Germany and Sweden. According to German law, in order to get a conviction for sexual assault, the victim must prove that they resisted the violence. In which case, its possible that a lot of rapes aren't being reported for both citizens and immigrants.
