Jul 6, 2016 That happens all the time homeboy. Cept it doesnt even necessarily have to be shooting and beating. They f--- with people. There's the unwarranted search & seizures. The illegal detainments. You remember the stop and frisk program in NYC? You think that WASNT made to target minorities?
Jul 6, 2016 How aren't they comparable? Based on the two videos we have of the murder, based on the reports of the police department itself, and based on the eyewitness testimony of the man who owned the convenience store, there is no reasonably way by which Sterling should have become a target in the first place. By watching those videos, it's clear that there's no way he was endangering the officers' lives. So when you consider that in the broader context of American life (including hard data to which I've linked in this thread), what's the most reasonable conclusion to draw? That Sterling was treated differently than a white suspect would have been.
Jul 6, 2016 We will never agree because we will never agree on this point. The victim doesn't have to go in docile for it to be an execution. There is no way, given the second video, that this was a "struggle" in any sense. The police held all the physical power. The police declined to further neutralize Sterling, electing to murder him instead.
Jul 6, 2016 @Charlie you alluded to agreeing with this, or at least agreeing that things would not have escalated as quickly if the only variable that was changed were Sterling's race. Defendants are often found civilly liable (and occasionally criminally guilty) if their actions set in motion a chain of events that can be reasonably said to have led to someone's death. This will almost certainly not be the route taken if and when this goes to trial, as very few courts in this country would be willing to set that kind of precedent in cases involving police officers. But if you extend the logic simply to the end of establishing that Sterling's race was a key factor that set in motion a chain of events leading to his death, I believe you'd have a strong argument.
Jul 6, 2016 If that's the point of contention, I feel comfortable holding my stance. In regards to the race stuff in your second comment, I'm not ruling it out. Those are details that should come to light during a drawn out court proceeding. Interested in following it.
Jul 6, 2016 charlie the type of guy to see someone say "f--- ISIS" and reply "Do you even know them all?"
Jul 6, 2016 I'm white, I'm from Wisconsin, and I've been let off numerous times with warnings, lol. If that's truly happening, then I don't blame people for not being 100% cooperative with police...but resisting somebody with a gun is usually never the best idea, in general.
Jul 6, 2016 But sometimes if you let yourself get handcuffed you get thrown in the back of a police van and have your neck broken, or you get killed in jail and have it ruled a suicide.
Jul 6, 2016 Disgusting.. and unjustified I mean, if he really was reaching for that gun, at least s---t him on the hand if you really feel like 2 trained men can't hold another man laying on his f---ing back.
Jul 6, 2016 This is very true. We have a f----- up system, no doubt. It sucks that we have cops that harass people for no reason, but it also sucks that we have people that shoplift and once they get caught they immediately scream "BRUTALITY! WORLDSTAR! MICHAEL BROWN!" Idk, how would you fix it? Honestly curious.
Jul 6, 2016 Dude what are you talking about? How many cases of police brutality that don't involve an actual murder have you seen in the news these past two years?
Jul 6, 2016 None, obviously the non-local news that I see is only going to show the ones that end in extreme results...but according to this: ...Police brutalities that don't involve actual murder happen all the time
Jul 6, 2016 Did you need a post on a rap forum to tell you the cops harass black and brown people lol I'm saying you can't hold police officers murdering people and kids getting caught for petty crimes in equal opposition.
Jul 6, 2016 Charge, indict, and aggressively prosecute cops who abuse their power. Change the vetting process for police academies and forces themselves; put civilians on those boards and on oversight committees. Change laws to make it easier to charge and/or sue officers in cases of excessive force; make it more difficult for department to suppress reports. Require that officers live in the communities they police. Keep and release official records of officer-involved shootings. Accept new training procedures and best practices that don't involve using weapons to gain compliance.
Jul 6, 2016 It's a tough job being a cop in the inner city. Highly stressful dealing with alot of people who have no regard or care for others. The murder rate sky high as people thinking pulling out guns and shooting people is the way to resolve silly issues with someone. Drug houses all over the place. People won't even cooperate to help solve most of these horrendous crimes happening. It's a really dangerous job being a police officer in these cities. You guys would have your guard up too all the time of you had to deal with what they do on a daily basis
Jul 6, 2016 ^ a young man who calls himself "Big d-ck b------" and has a picture of Donald Trump as his avy, who previously spent a decade impersonating a black person on the internet.
Jul 6, 2016 Of course you continue to lie and say I impersonated being black. I am actually from Detroit and grew up around this crazyness. Unlike you, who is a Lilly white suburban liberal who has never been around this environment
