Jul 18, 2016

everybody's on your a--- about the graphs that you said you'd post but never did to refute the graphs @Trippy Skippy posted

 

Jul 18, 2016

holy s--- WHAT

ofc you didn't read my post. Why fully consider another view point right?

The rest of this is baffling.
I asked you to prove to me about the media. You didn't: cop out.
Don't remember you asking me about BLM and the media. I mean, I guess? The broadcast media is self-serving and sometimes-stupid. As I previously wrote, it's difficult to generalize them since the landscape is so fractured nowadays.
What system of beliefs? What groups of people?! Are we HAVING THE SAME DEBATE HERE? I'm actually interested -- you're 100% mischaracterizing what you previously said tho. I literally just quoted you lol. And, btw -- you said you'd provide actual facts to prove your assertions. You still haven't. Drive safe.

 

Jul 18, 2016

I'm still cackling at Kon arguing that Tupac, a guy who shot at two off-duty police officers, a guy who spoke lucidly and at length about black liberation and oppressive power structures in America, would say of black Americans "they need to fix their own behavior" lolllllllllllll get the entire f--- outta here you f---ing dweeb

 

Jul 18, 2016

how privileged is @blair irl btw? what kind of car do you think he drives?

am guessing he thinks he's "made it" since he lives in LA. parents probably paid for his uhaul

 

Jul 18, 2016

I figured "Siri" was an actual person he paid to text for him tbh

 

Jul 18, 2016

So Pac's never said anything about poor blacks fixing their communities, their lives etc?

 

Jul 18, 2016

"poor blacks"

Of course everyone should strive to better themselves. Everyone should help make their community a better place. The difference between Pac and passively racist doofuses like you is that you think shortcomings in black communities justify, or at least reasonably precipitate the murder and incarceration of black people.

 

Jul 18, 2016

Poor blacks as in those who don't make a lot of money lol, not sure how else I could have said it.

Didn't say anything about it justifying anything, was just pointing out both things are issues and I think Pac would try to make progress on both, not just one.

 

Jul 18, 2016

Maybe "poor black people" you absolute ingrate.

 

Jul 18, 2016

?

K, is that really much better? Blacks was just quicker, you are f---in weird man.

 

Jul 18, 2016

The graphs that were posted and what he said originally were two different things. See below

No, you just started mentioning LBJ and others and it started going in a direction that I'm not trying to argue. I admitted it was a cheapshot at Obama based on opinion. See my edit in last post.

I don't even know what we are arguing about anymore tbh. This has gone in too many directions. Media generalizes everything and focuses on the most negative angle they can get. How many positive stories do you see about police officers saving a life or BLM standing up for social justice instead of blocking traffic, getting arrested or assaulting someone?

Here is what I was referring to with that trippy guy:

http://www.nleomf.org/facts/officer-fatalities-data/year.html

I get the point he was trying to make and his graphs support it, but what he originally posted was not true. It's semantics and honestly the whole thing is irrelevant because I was nit picking and 2016 will likely blow everything out of the water anyways because everyone is killing everyone.

 

Jul 18, 2016

Uh, a lot?

 

Jul 18, 2016

He did speak on doing better as a community though. Duh.

@Kon is completely right. Progress can be made on both ends. Only a small minority of people here won't acknowledge there is a clear racial disadvantage for black Americans, but getting you to admit to any other factors, outside of the systematic racist narrative, is like pulling teeth.

 

Jul 18, 2016

I never noticed Prhyme until this past month and oh man has he quickly become one of the worst posters on the site, on a variety of topics.

Oppressed people do not bear any responsibility for their oppression. Black people being poor does not justify black people being killed by cops.

The funny thing about this dude (slash Kon slash the JMG followers of the world) is that they can't even pin down what, specifically, I'm arguing that they disagree with.

 

Jul 18, 2016

@blair that's a fine #hot take on the media, but you need to PROVE their coverage has resulted in the deaths of these cops. you can't and won't.

you also insinuated obama's tone somehow resulted in their deaths, and that he's bending over backward to appeal to blm. Fancy that, a black president empathizing with the unlawful deaths of black americans. deeply troubling, right?

that's why i brought up lbj -- it's his job to reflect what's going on in the country. He should respond to blm. not everyone can be reagan and ignore domestic problems into they manifest into full blown epidemics.. heh

 

Jul 18, 2016

Jesus you're so smug it must take a six man rescue team to pull your head outta your a---.

Show me where I changed/edited my post or stance in any way,

 

Jul 18, 2016

So you don't think media generalizes BLM in a negative light?

 

Jul 18, 2016

^^wtf

 

Jul 18, 2016

he's a BernieBro who hangs out with @Perry The Platypus irl

 

Jul 18, 2016

This is like the 18th straw man argument you've made here.