Jul 18, 2016

owned

 

Jul 18, 2016

A guy went hunting for cops compared to a video showing half of a confrontation. A bit different if you ask me.

 

Jul 18, 2016

Delete that before JMG see's it lol.

 

Jul 18, 2016

A guy went hunting for cops based on what? How is what we know about Johnson half as conclusive as what we know about Falcon Heights?

If you don't want the president to comment on ongoing investigations, you'd be expecting him to break from literally all of our recorded history, but fine. But that's not even what you're doing, lol. You're saying he should only comment on killings that fit your worldview.

Obama is the president. If cops are killed in Dallas, he should go on TV that night. If we have video of a police officer waving his gun in a dying guy's face, he should go on TV that night.

As @captain awesome pointed out, you have absolutely no proof that anything Obama's done has inflamed violence; if you review the transcripts of what he said post-Castile, it's more or less a call to order. He knows those videos are inflammatory. His job as president is to maintain peace while acknowledging grievances from the populace.

 

Jul 18, 2016

@blair bellyflopped hard in this thread. Makes me long for @Perry The Platypus tbh

 

Jul 18, 2016

Holy s--- this thread.

f---ing embarrassing to call myself politically conservative at this point.

 

Jul 18, 2016

I didn't explain my position? I cited 200 years of racism and provided actual recent examples and you responded with "yeah but after a couple 100 years they stopped enslaving black people so how can they be racist?" I assume you're not rly Jamaican because you have the music taste and world knowledge of a twelve year old white kid, and that's being generous.

 

Jul 18, 2016

This is obviously a joke so no point responding.

Never said that. Said he should be careful about condemning the killings, as he did, bcause what if there were some piece of evidence we don't see that justifies everything? How would that work out?

You guys can continue to argue something I'm not even disagreeing with you about. Pat each other on the back, we all got that win together. I'm not saying he inflamed violence. I said it's irresponsible.

 

Jul 18, 2016

Oh what a bs cop-out, lol. Come on.

Because even based on the versions of events in Baton Rouge and Falcon Heights that police have acknowledged it's reasonable to condemn them? Even if you dispute race as a motive, they were both--especially Baton Rouge, as that whole thing was on video--questionable uses of force at best?

Again...lol. You explicitly endorsed "Big d-ck b------" saying Obama was culpable for these killings. I believe your words were "He's 100 percent correct."

 

Jul 18, 2016

It was so ridiculous it's not worth arguing and you know it.

Because a few equally irresponsible cops went on Facebook? Questionable, yes, but no one knows what happened other than the people who were there.

You just don't like big d-ck b------ because his name, don't you? I think he said something about Obama having blood on his hands, I disagree with that. Happy?

 

Jul 18, 2016

Not at all. I think, speaking objectively, we have a far more conclusive evidence of what happened in Falcon Heights and Baton Rouge than we do of the killings in Dallas. At the very least, the latter didn't hit some obvious benchmark to where it makes sense for a sitting president to address one, but not the other.

Like, to clarify, you're saying that a president should not address state killings of civilians that cause massive uproars? I mean, talk about "irresponsible."

So by this logic, Obama shouldn't condemn the murders of police officers. Got it.

Well, I distrust him because he pretended to be a black person on the internet for a decade, which I think is a reasonable reaction.

Uh so what changed between now and when you saw his post, quoted it, and said "Yes. This. 100 percent correct here."?

 

Jul 18, 2016

Yes, half a video for both police killings tell you more than a the Dallas shooter, who talked to police and told them what he was trying to do. That's absolute nonsense.

Twisting more words

In one situation you have seen a video of half a confrontation and claim to know the full story. The other, a guy killed a bunch of cops, talked to them and said he was targeting white people and white cops. So, I think they are different and the same logic doesn't apply, as We already established.

Maybe he identifies as a black man. What's your opinion on transgendered people?

I have been enlightened

 

Jul 18, 2016

You're calling him racist, and insinuating he can't like a black athlete or artist unless he 100% sides with what you consider the main problems and solutions in the black community.

 

Jul 18, 2016

This is corny, you don't even want to debate.

 

Jul 18, 2016

I said that it's racist to suggest that "problems" in "black communities" are reasonable contributors to police officers murdering black people; I said that it's racist to suggest the poverty of some black people is a problem on the same level as police abuse. I then expressed my disgust with people who consumes black music and champion black athletes while espousing those racist things. That's my prerogative.

 

Jul 18, 2016

No, not really. I don't even feel that strongly about most of the stuff in this thread.

 

Jul 18, 2016

Shaun King identifies as a black man

 

Jul 18, 2016

Is he really not black?

 

Jul 18, 2016

 

Jul 18, 2016

FALSE. Kon did not say that problems in black communities or poverty in black communities justify police killings. Try again.