Jul 18, 2016

 

Jul 18, 2016

I know you think it's cute to have this schtick online but your first post in here is literally advocating for a race war.

Black Lives Matter and those who share their beliefs are non-violent.

 

Jul 18, 2016

Raised tens of thousands of dollars for victims families. Set up mediation and mentorship programs in dozens of major cities. Forced both Democratic candidates for President to adopt pieces of their platform; had hours-long meetings with Obama at the White House. Have made police brutality a central issue for the soon-to-be new junior senator from California (and for dozens of other congressional candidates around the country). Have made central to our national debates an issue that basically was only on this level during the last round of LA riots.

What have you accomplished? Beside your mediocre troll account on a rap forum?

 

Jul 18, 2016

 

Jul 18, 2016

Out of all the cops to k---. Those MFers deserve a fate worse than death.

 

Jul 18, 2016

I can't stress enough how inaccurate the media paints Black Lives Matter, vs BLM themselves. They really are non-violent and don't advocate riots, killings, etc. it's the MSM that takes one small incident at a protest (of which those participants have nothing to do with BLM) and blows it out of proportion. The fact that people buy into the bs so easily is both sad and hillarious

 

Jul 18, 2016

So would you say there is an innacurate portrayal of BLM as a whole because media focuses on the worst of the worst?

 

Jul 18, 2016

Yeah, generalized assumptions based of individual incidents disregarding contextual evidence sure s--- don't they.

 

Jul 18, 2016

Do we have to have our 15th round of explaining why the police are different from civilians?

 

Jul 18, 2016

Oh i'm sitting this thread out. Maybe the next one. a bit too behind in the updates (not like i hear this s--- on my news).

 

Jul 18, 2016

To recap:

--Police killings are at their lowest rate since WW2. (Again, in some years of Obama's presidency, they've been among the lowest gross totals as well.)

--The overwhelming majority of statistical evidence shows black people (and nearly all non-white people, really) are more likely to be: stopped; searched; abused; killed; arrested; held without bail; charged; indicted, for identical crimes.

Those two points are inarguable, sorry if that rattles your sensibilities. You can't have "beliefs" about what hard numbers show.

 

Jul 18, 2016

Wait, weren't you going to post figures that refuted @Trippy Skippy's graphs?

 

Jul 18, 2016

maybe? It could be that Obama is the reason for this, or that Obama is the benefactor of a declining trend?

They are also more likely to commit crimes and to be poor . I think it's more about socioeconomic standings and cultural factors (how 'black people' behave) than skin color. But that's just my theory. Try effecting change first and foremost within the black community. do something about that black on black crime rate. Change yourself before you aspire to change others.

 

Jul 18, 2016

How much progress has been made in this thread?

 

Jul 18, 2016

I'd like to know what you think about the fact that more white people get killed than blacks from 1999-2011. FBI data on police shootings according to race is often incomplete, but according to that data, from may 2013-april 2015 about 49% of people killed by police were white, and 30% of them were black. blacks make about 12% of the population and have about 3.5 times greater chance of getting killed by cops.

Also, its possible that some blacks get killed, arrested, harassed by cops because they tend to commit more crime than other races. This isn't just police targeting black folk and pulling them off the street. The problem, imo, goes deeper than systemic racism and the police racially profiling & doing a bad job. It also comes down to parenting and the fact that black culture sometimes promotes this sort of behavior. I agree with you overall on this subject though so before you reply, dont jump on me and cal me a racist, self hating bigot plz

 

Jul 18, 2016

I'm not venturing to give Obama credit for the decline--I'm just pointing out that the narrative of police being in more danger now is patently false by every possible metric.

See, this is where you lose the plot. Black people are, on the whole, at an economic disadvantage in America. But even when you control for economic station, black people are still more likely to be [arrested/killed/etc] than their white peers in the same neighborhoods committing the same crimes.

 

Jul 18, 2016

I have no intention to try dispute your numbers . The only discussion i ever tried to make was of cause and effect.

 

Jul 18, 2016

As I type this, Hillary Clinton is on TV saying in plain terms that black people are disproportionately killed.

I think you answer that yourself with:

I partially address this in my prior post to GS; it's also not true that black people commit crime at an increased rate when you control for economics.

 

Jul 18, 2016

I stand by my exact words. Police officer deaths have not fallen. Police officer fatalities in the line of duty and per capita are at a low point in 2014 and 2015, however, that's not what was said in the original post and it is irrelevant because 2016 will likely be a high point.

Are you guys going to completely disregard my last two posts about media coverage of BLM?

An article from Vanity Fair with picked out statistics is hardly irrefutable. I can pick out data from the FBI that would equally skew the other direction.