Aug 9, 2016

Rappers have been investigated for saying a lot less.

 

Aug 10, 2016

How is it a reach? Let's pick this statement apart here...

“By the way, and if she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks. Although the Second Amendment people, maybe there is, I don’t know. But I’ll tell you what, that will be a horrible day.”

So my interpretation: he's suggesting violence
Your interpretation: he's suggesting political activism, or something? I guess?

Why is there nothing to do about Hillary's judges unless you're a Second Amendment person? He specifically singles them out, what could be different about them to distinguish them from the rest of America?

If political activism/voting/protesting (whatever explanation you're clinging to) was an option, he would have just said that from the start! "Hillary will want to pick her judges, but folks, there's something you can do about it - you can vote for me, you can fight her in the courts, etc. etc." This is the type of thing he would have said if your interpretation was what he intended. But instead he says....there isn't anything you can do, oh actually MAYBE there is another thing if you're into the Second Amendment - but I won't say out loud what that other thing is (because he knows he can't!).

This is part of why Trump is an absolute coward: he works in innuendos. He knows EXACTLY what he's saying, but he's too chickenshit to own it himself, so he tiptoes to the edge, makes suggestions, and blames it on a) a nameless "some" or "many" who told him to say it, and b) the media for covering it improperly.
Trump in 2011: A lot of very smart people are telling me Barack Obama wasn't born in the United States...I'm not saying it! *They* told ME!
Trump talking about Cruz's citizenship: "I’d hate to see something like that get in his way, but a lot of people are talking about it, and I know that even some states are looking at it very strongly, the fact that he was born in Canada and he has had a double passport."
Trump after the Orlando shooting, suggesting Obama is on the side of terrorists: "A lot of people think maybe he doesn’t want to know about it. I happen to think that he just doesn’t know what he’s doing, but there are many people that think maybe he doesn’t want to get it. He doesn’t want to see what’s really happening. And that could be."
Trump accusing the Clintons of murdering Vince Foster: "I don’t bring it up because I don’t know enough to really discuss it. I will say there are people who continue to bring it up because they think it was absolutely a murder. I don’t do that because I don’t think it’s fair."

Trump has a history of making these sorts of outrageous suggestions. If John Kasich said this, or Bernie Sanders said this, I'd be much more inclined to give them the benefit of the doubt that perhaps they misspoke. But the Trump campaign's reaction is instructive - compare that to Hillary's 2008 RFK comments like @Tone Riggz did (which, by the way, is a terrible comparison lol). Hillary immediately apologized and walked the comments back. Trump isn't even remotely conciliatory or sensitive to the fact that his words may have been heard a certain way. There isn't even a hint at an apology in his statements or his campaign's statements in response to the media uproar. As president, you have to be incredibly careful with your words - say the wrong thing and the stock market will tumble. Say the wrong thing and you'll alienate allies and upset enemies. Say the wrong thing and you'll...yes, incite violence. Even in the most charitable interpretation of Trump's comments, giving him full credit that he didn't mean what I say he meant...he still shouldn't have said it that way, and he still should have acknowledged and been sensitive to those who took it the wrong way.

Words matter when you're running for president, this isn't The f---ing Apprentice anymore. Donald Trump is a man who keeps proving, basically every day of this campaign, that he falls embarrassingly short of the standards we should have for our POTUS. You want to talk policies? I'll do that ALL DAY....but you've got a nominee who doesn't even reach the lowest of thresholds for the office. Policies are secondary when we're talking about someone who can't even be trusted with the nuclear codes. Anyone voting for this man should be ashamed.

 

Aug 9, 2016

this is your first election isn't it

The "polls aren't real!" crowd is my absolute FAVORITE

 

Aug 10, 2016

@Swizz thunderclapping the forum with his wit and eloquence. Co-signed.

Trump is not Reagan, Romney, McCain, Bush, whoever. He is a perversion, a parody of a conservative candidate for president. I rly hope his candidacy is a flash in the pan, and we will return to certain standards of decency in our electioneering. I'm sry guys... but if you vote for Trump you're an absolute idiot. Think about how truly stupid you are, and what your quality of life is going be with such a foolish worldview/mindset.

 

Aug 10, 2016

Manafort: "Please, Donald, just do anything you have to do to get this Khan story out of the news."

Trump: "Anything?"

 

Aug 9, 2016

Remember when the Republicans told us he would act more presidential in the general election. Dude keeps saying dumb s--- the moment he goes off script

 

Aug 9, 2016

It's going to be something to watch America pat the GOP on the back in 2020 for nominating someone who doesn't attack Gold Star families or joke about assassinating his opponent

 

Aug 9, 2016

What do you even say at this point?

 

Aug 10, 2016

Swizz ethered @GawDEDEDE so hard with this post that he didn't even bother to post in this thread again lol.

 

Aug 10, 2016

Anyone who thinks he seriously was calling for an assassination of Clinton is a r----- and should have their right to vote rescinded. I'm so done with these non-topics dominating the media and election conversation.

Who refers to assassins as "2nd amendment people"? Are you f---ing serious? What an insane bs reach. He's obviously talking about pro 2nd amendment people defending it from being thrown out by the SC, in the case that she attempts it. Anything suggesting further from his rhetoric is batshit. Mentally ill liberals will turn someone's words into something completely different lol.

 

Aug 9, 2016

This should disqualify Trump imo. I don't give a s--- if he was voted in... If you actively encourage the idea of your opponent being assassinated, you should automatically be disqualified. Absolutely f---ing disgusting.

 

Aug 9, 2016

Not positive he meant it in a 'you could k--- Clinton' way, but maybe he did I'm not sure..Here's the full context of what he said:

“Hillary wants to abolish — essentially abolish — the Second Amendment,” the Republican nominee said at a rally in Wilmington, N.C., on Tuesday afternoon. “And if she gets to pick, if she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do.”

Trump added: “But the Second Amendment people, maybe there is. I don’t know.”

Since he was already talking about guns, he might have been saying maybe the gun enthusiasts could find a way for her to not pick her judges, or come up with some plan against it?

I don't know, like I said I'm not sure but I'm not 100% convinced he meant assassinate Clinton in this case as most are assuming but he might have.

 

Aug 13, 2016

Trump did show some modest improvement as a candidate in the past week. He has stopped criticizing a Muslim family of a fallen U.S. soldier.

 

Aug 10, 2016

well yes, yes it was, but no need to be a Grumpy Gus about it!

 

Aug 10, 2016

Uh, how do you think this works?

 

Aug 10, 2016

How is joking about the assassination of a political opponent not relevant you f---ing moron? You don't think it matters if a presidential candidate is spewing dangerous rhetoric?

 

Aug 10, 2016

Obama would prob ban the 2nd amendment the next day lol