Kanye West Kanye Comes Out In Support of Trump

Started by Mike Tyson, Nov 18, 2016, in Kanye West Add to Reading List

  1. Lamont
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    A trump vote was also an anti hillary vote. Lots of people - who were not racists - simply voted for Trump because he was perceived to be an anti establishment figure and being against globalism. There were lots of voters who just decided that Trump was less corrupt or less evil, and they aren't necessarily wrong.

    I did not vote for either candidate because my own ideological preferences frankly did not line up with either candidate, but it hardly had to do with racism. Both candidates have said s-----y, insensitive things regarding race. I think if you're acting like Hillary has some kind of moral high ground then you're not really being honest about Hillary's own track record.
     
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    WPG sxn80 Rory Gilmore

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    "good people" who don't give a f--- about muslims or hispanic people or black people or women or gay people or disabled people or....
     
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    WPG sxn80 Rory Gilmore

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    hillary was a historically awful candidate who, in a vacuum, deserved to lose, but acting as if nearly any democrat in this race wouldn't have the moral high ground is frankly insane
     
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    The specific people I'm talking about are sponsors for a Brazilian couple.

    Associating all Trump voters with something so negative is the same concept as basic racism. It's silly.

    We're just not gonna see eye-to-eye on this. But I do respect your POV because in the end the basis of your argument is in good nature/for the greater good.
     
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    WPG sxn80 Rory Gilmore

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    choosing to vote for someone is not the same as being born into a certain race. are you kidding?

    voting for someone who wants to register muslims with the government is indefensible. how is that different from nazi policy?
     
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  6. Lamont
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    well I am talking about Hillary, if it was Joe biden or bernie running against Trump then it's a different story
     
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    WPG sxn80 Rory Gilmore

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    i understand your issues with clinton, even if i disagree with them. but how is voting for someone who, with the stroke of a pen, plans to un-insure tens of millions of americans "morally superior"?
     
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  8. Lamont
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    I don't think Trump wants to do that. He already backed off on his plans to completely repeal Obama care.

    and i didn't say "morally superior" so where is that coming from? I said plenty of times in the past they are both pieces of s---, in different ways. Based off of Hillary's own actions, and some of her own venomous rhetoric, I don't really think she can take the moral ground here and that should have been obvious to the democrats. That's not to say Trump is a greater human being or whatever you are trying to say.
     
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    WPG sxn80 Rory Gilmore

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    i think "he might not do what he said he would do" is a flimsy defense of a candidate, much less a president.
     
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  10. Lamont
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    It's obvious hes not going to do EVERYTHING that he said hes going to do. He's a showman for crying out loud.

    and yeah - he already backed off on repealing Obamacare.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-walks-back-stance-205921490.html
     
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    WPG sxn80 Rory Gilmore

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    trump has said that he'd be willing to keep certain provisions of the aca, but would still leave those insured under it without insurance after any degree of repeal.
     
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    I guess that wasn't the greatest comparison. Obviously it's different because you can't choose how you're born. I just meant the basics of associating negative traits to someone because "they did 'a'" or "they are 'b'." Sometimes you can do that, but to not acknowledge that there are exceptions is crazy to me.

    Is it not possible to you that voters can be totally against Trump's nazi mentality, but at the same time have a personal, -- non-evil -- reason to vote for him? Like I said it's more of an overlooking of the facts for family sake rather than agreeing with Trump.
     
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    WPG sxn80 Rory Gilmore

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    of course i think that's possible! i'll bet millions of people did it. and in doing so, they did something reprehensible and unavoidably racist.
     
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    Hopefully they will replace it with a superior system that doesn't have extremely high premiums. We will have to wait and see!
     
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    i think the notion that we'll have to "wait and see" how trump governs is ridiculous considering he ran a white nationalist campaign then appointed a bunch of racist to top-level positions lol
     
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    Not a fan of Trump's cabinet in the slightest, but that's all we can do at this point. I hope President Trump does a good job. That's about it really.
     
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    Ok so I think I understand what you're saying now: the decision to vote for him was unavoidably racist, but that doesn't necessarily mean every person who voted for him is a racist individual, or entirely horrid person.

    Right or wrong?
     
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    What a sad view of the world to see everything in terms of race and racism, totally blind to what's really going on. Sounds like h---. Not all ignorance is bliss.
     
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    WPG sxn80 Rory Gilmore

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    i don't see everything through those lenses; the problem here is that you don't see racism in anything. trump's policies are likely to be horrible for 85+ percent of the country, regardless of race.
     
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    Very easy for you to be unconcerned. If our president-elect was hiring ppl who want to purge the country of white basement-dwellers with bushy a--- caterpillar eyebrows you'd be humming a very different tune
     
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