Feb 10, 2017

the dossier was prepared by a known intelligence official. it didn't go from unnamed source to journalist. it was commissioned during the primary race.

 

Feb 10, 2017

well this is different to the 1 page dossier that was typed up on 4chan then, isn't it

 

Feb 10, 2017

serious question: do you guys really not trust major news outlets? like at all?

this is something @Papa Andy and i talk about a lot. one of the worst effects trump has had is that he's somehow convinced 30 percent of the country that the news media is somehow illegitimate.

 

Feb 10, 2017

i don't trust fake news outlets like cnn
i'll throw Fox on now and then in the background

 

Feb 10, 2017

I don't necessarily think they're illegitimate, just very biased. If you didn't think there was bias in the pre-election coverage, then well I don't really know what to tell you other than we're very far apart on how we see this.

Me thinking the media is biased has nothing to do with Trump by the way, I've thought that for years.

 

Feb 10, 2017

1. what is "the media" when you use that term?
2. how would you characterize any bias in the election coverage?

 

Feb 10, 2017

how can you 100% trust any news outlet when this happened?
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-10/4chan-claims-have-fabricated-anti-trump-report-hoax

 

Feb 10, 2017

We're all humans, bias to some extent or another is going to be present but if you're reading a title of an article and then disregarding all the contents of said article because you perceived the title as "bias" you're not being open minded. You're closing your eyes and ears and pretending like you're being open minded.

 

Feb 10, 2017

 

Feb 10, 2017

i don't know how/why the discussion now is about "100 percent trusting" any news outlet. you should read everything critically. but it's silly to act as if the underlying editorial standards at major outlets don't exist.

 

Feb 10, 2017

i'm not sure why you think this is an exclusive conversation that i'm trying to engage in with my post, that didn't quote anyone...

It's silly that editorial standards allowed a made up 4chan story to circulate multiple news outlets.

 

Feb 10, 2017

Are you kidding me?

Karl Rove/Rush Limbaugh/Roger Ailes/Rupert Murdoch pulled this off in 2001-2002.



The Republican Party is the strong majority party because more than 30% of the population voluntary brainwash themselves with propaganda for decades, and put their fingers in their ears and scream "you're lying to me." when the free press report truth to power.

 

Feb 10, 2017

no, obviously the idea that those with certain press preferences are more divorced from reality than the others. but this isn't the same thing-- it's the sincere belief that reported news as an institution is fundamentally and irreversibly wrong, full stop. not biased or being spun, but like, a dude on a couch writing fiction.

 

Feb 10, 2017

Trump is an oppertunistic disease that struck an America that has been very very sick from the "CEC" for a long time.


Trump hasn't lived in reality ever himself. He spent most of his adult life living on the "68th" floor of a building that only has 58 floors. It's first nature for him to lie or even pretend to be his made up imaginary friend on the phone.


Ted Cruz could never say "the real unemployment rate is 42%", "believe it or not, we export nothing to Japan at all." or "crime is at a 47 year high."... Because even though he is an ideological arch conservative maniac... He still lives in reality.

 

Feb 10, 2017

Guys, here's the thing. It's not that a lot of you aren't smart or capable. You are. It's just that - when it comes to understanding shifting media winds/politics/influence of the Internet and a generational diet of conservative bs that sow contempt for most American institutions - you're out of your element, pretty much. And weak. But the Internet and culture or whatever is v empowering -- everyone's opinion is supposed to mean something --- when it actually rly doesn't. Trust the experts sometimes and recognize ur own foolishness lol

You can't point to one or two or ten media stories and try to draw sweeping conclusions about "media bias." And like... Who are you guys to think that? You casually follow news and politics because it's a form of entertainment. You've been led to think you can analyze and process this stuff ....when you can't. That's the irony of the 24/7 news cycle, media fracturing and republican politicians whose rhetoric is anti this anti that.

 

Feb 10, 2017

unironically this

 

Feb 10, 2017

I bet Theg has been red pilled all the way to the daily stormer.

 

Feb 11, 2017

I've came to terms with this years ago. That's why I barely discuss politics anymore. Wish more people were self aware.

 

Feb 11, 2017

Man I know everything

 

Feb 11, 2017

i learned this one in like, grade 5 bro. i'm smarter than everyone except maybe Alch

how old were you when you experienced this in-game @Alchemist34 ??