Kendrick Lamar The Misunderstanding Of Kendrick Lamar & Microwave Journalism

Started by Flacko, Nov 5, 2015, in Kendrick Lamar Add to Reading List

  1. Enigma
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    Enigma Civil liberties > Police safety

    Nov 5, 2015
    He's defending a piece that he didn't even write and randomly took shots at 2dopeboyz claiming it's "killing rap criticism." That's not "being in his feelings?" Clearly this article hit a nerve to set off that type of reaction.
     
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  2. Narsh
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    Did I say we were? I asked the people that already praised the entire article why THEY ignored this part (and other comparably tone deaf segments)
     
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  3. Narsh
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    But I said 3 times now it's because he's part of the industry hes speaking out about. He's not allowed to speak on his own profession? When there are articles floating around about it? What?
     
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  4. Pato v3
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    Pato v3 exilio

    Nov 5, 2015
    I think that is fair to say that they are mostly praising the author's courage and how he dealt with TPAB's criticism

    There are a few weird comparisons, sure, like:

    But it's still a lot better than Complex's click-bait article
     
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  5. Narsh
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    No, no it's not

    How in the world did this article take courage?

    And just because complex had a click bait title doesn't mean the piece wasn't great. What was wrong with it? How is this a lot better? The complex piece cited more (and better) examples, made better points, and opened up the discussion for critiquing current rap journalism (including the authors own pieces) all while asking us to question why we enjoyed TPAB. It's not the authors fault all of you want to misread it and then make tone deaf pieces like the one in the op
     
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    WPG sxn80 Rory Gilmore

    Nov 5, 2015
    it's not
     
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  7. Enigma
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    Enigma Civil liberties > Police safety

    Nov 5, 2015
    He can comment on whatever he wants but his tweets just come off as whiney and emotional. If he really thought that little of 2dopeboyz, he should have just ignored the article to begin with. I'm guessing his pride/ego kicked in though. Like WPG said on the first page, move on.
     
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  8. Narsh
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    Idk man I don't think it sounds like that. It might if this was isolated. But whatever, if you want to think he's bitching then I can't stop you

    I personally think it's another writer commenting on his profession. And be defended what he thought in the few tweets I read.
     
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  9. Pato v3
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    Pato v3 exilio

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    Article in a fairly popular site? Check

    Controversial album? Check

    Attacking Complex and 90% of Hip Hop journalism? Check

    Addressing the #BlackLivesMatter movement out of nowhere? Check

    Comparing TPAB with school shootings? Check

    I don't agree with 100% of the article but it does the job well

    Complex's piece is as corny as his title
     
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    WPG sxn80 Rory Gilmore

    Nov 5, 2015
    how is that "courageous"?

    if you think writing positively about a kendrick lamar album is some bold move you need a reality check

    he entirely misunderstood charity's piece. (for the record, hale is a dyed-in-the-wool rap conservative who thinks young thug is the antichrist.)

    suggesting that black writers who dare question To p---- a Butterfly are akin to All Lives Matter types is as offensive as it is totally contrived

    which is powerfully stupid
     
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    Pato v3 exilio

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    And like I said, I don't necessarily agree with 100% of the article, but I do appreciate the author's intentions and what he was trying to express
     
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  12. WPG
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    "it's courageous to write for 2dopeboyz" lol
     
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    Pato v3 exilio

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    Don't put words in my mouth pls, you know what I was trying to say
     
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    YiT Kornrow Kenny

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    I don't necesarrliy agree with all of his points about race in America and haven't read the complex article, but I think this is very well written.
     
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    To be fair to @Narsh, he didn't just take a small part out of context. He took a large excerpt and rightfully came to the conclusion it was s---. As much as I disagreed with the Complex article, this response article was terrible
     
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    complex article was a lot more objective imo
     
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  17. Narsh
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    yeah but ur reading comp isnt something to write home about m8
     
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    Pato v3 exilio

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    I don't get how you can disagree with the Complex article and call this piece "terrible"

    Like, what I'm getting from this is that you don't agree with any point made in the article?

    There are corny fragments but the piece as a whole is decent

    lol ok

    My point still remains, he's a cornball


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    Jakey You Reckon

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    I read the first few paragraphs, is this even about TPAB or writers bitching about other writers?
     
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    Nov 5, 2015
    lmao he literally said in the tweets you quoted -- all hip hop stems from "black" roots. just because kendrick wrote an average college thesis and tried to make an album out of it doesnt make it automatically worthwhile.

    how is he in any way a "cornabll"

    You think the guy who compared people disliking an album because its not THAT great musically to Uncle Toms insightful, and the guy who remained objective and proved ample evidence to back up his points "corny"

    yeah ok.

    Also, if you can read, the dudes points about people reviewing albums to quickly etc is ACTUALLY what Charity's ENTIRE peice was about. im dying.

    ALSO, this is absolute drivel:
    "The Complex column is essentially calling out those who claim they want to wife the real kinky haired sistas with a few stretch marks and a pair of breasts that have a natural droop but drool incessantly over plastic Instagram models that gyrate their enhanced body parts in 15 seconds clips to hundreds of thousands of followers.

    Here’s the moral of the story: You don’t have to lie to kick it. But you also don’t have to go out of your way to s--- on something in an effort to gain more traffic."

    ill give u my plus status if you can explain what he meant there.

    ALSO, this:
    "And then this column came nearly eight months after the 28-year-old’s album dropped. The fact that we’re even talking about an album that dropped nearly a year ago should be considered an achievement considering our frighteningly short attention spans that forget an album a week after it drops. But I digress…"

    means nothing. Complex's piece was more about journalists response to the album than the album itself.

    So basically half the things you quoted are actually just rehashed talking points from the Complex article, and the other half is nonsense.

    dope piece huh

    "Furthermore, TPAB is the quintessential “I-gave-you-what-you-want-so-I’ll-do-as-I-please (and-f----you-if-you-don’t-like-it)” album. It’s his De La Soul Is Dead album that abandons every box you previously attempted to put him in. The weight of the content isn’t comfortable to push up off of your chest but you don’t want to be the one who makes the mistake of not calling it a classic. It takes some work to digest the meal that the artist formally known as K. Dot is offering you. But it is guaranteed to give you food for thought if you are able to devour the three-course meal. And for true food aficionados who don’t pledge their allegiance to Yelp reviews, you can taste every ounce of seasoning and recognize what chefs influenced Lamar’s culinary practice."

    food for thought doesnt have to = a great album or listening experience or replay value. instance #3000 of people liking what kendricks album entailed more than its actual quality
     
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