Jul 6, 2016 ...what? No, it's undisputed that the gun was retrieved from Sterling's pocket after he'd been murdered.
Jul 6, 2016 his post said he didn't have a gun on him i asked how this was possible and you're giving me this response, essentially saying i'm wrong at the start but then not wrong because yes he did in fact have a gun? i'm really confused
Jul 6, 2016 Oh he had a gun on him--in his pocket. Having a gun on your person is not a crime, especially in Louisiana, which is an open-carry state. The relevant issue is whether Sterling presented an immediate threat to the officers, i.e.- a threat that justified lethal force. The gun was recovered from his pocket, so clearly he did not pose that threat.
Jul 6, 2016 What does the cops pulling the gun out of his pocket have to do with Sterling NOT pulling it out? Sterling did not pull his gun out at all during the altercation. Now, whether Sterling declared he had a weapon on him or not when the cops challenged him is a different story.
Jul 6, 2016 ...and that was the only thing i wanted to know since trackz seemed to imply otherwise? i'm not even reading the rest of your post because this is just getting confusing as h--- and I'm not even trying to argue one way or another i was simply curious about how that could be the case after seeing what i saw i leave the arguing all up to you guys. i just wanted an answer lol
Jul 6, 2016 okay, tho i don't know about the reaching part. that was hella unclear in the vid that i saw and i'm not about to rewatch it so eh, i'll just leave that
Jul 6, 2016 Declaring it or not declaring it is a lose-lose. Technically you're supposed to, but if you're Sterling in that situation, wouldn't you figure declaring your weapon would be taken as a threat? It's pretty straightforward actually, here: The BRPD received a call regarding a disturbance in the parking lot of a convenience store. They arrived in said parking lot and targeted Sterling, who--according to the owner of the store, who witnessed the entire thing--was welcome and well-known in the area and was not involved in the altercation that summoned the police. As can be seen in one of the two bystander videos, the two cops wrestled Sterling to the ground. As can be seen in both videos, the cops pinned Sterling to the ground, neutralizing him. They then shot four to six bullets into his chest, killing him. After the murder, Sterling's gun was recovered from his pocket--not from his hand or from the ground, where it would be if he was putting the officers' lives in danger.
Jul 6, 2016 was at work , boss was around even though the tab was there We need to have a grand dedicated discussion about this, because what you are claiming is both very massive and very deep. This topic can't be covered here. Im not american, so ill take a few notes myself. If skin color affects your objective worth as a human being No disputes there, your country was s--- in the 90's. It's 2016 though. Are we sure that progress hasn't been made. And how much if any is left. I think we are at the point where black people need to advance themselves intellectually and socially. Barack Obama proved that the highest point in the world is available to anyone willing to go get it. The argument isn't IF there is a problem, because there very much is. I can tell you. There will be cases where police killing suspects are justified, because sometimes dark justice is the best way. But this is a man who did nothing, and was killed for no other reasons than for s--- training or simply s--- people being police.
Jul 6, 2016 Not now, im stuck using my bro's s--- laptop since mine broke. hard do do simple typing with this.Will have enough to buy a basic setup in august (i need to be able to run visual studio without freezing) But america is a possible destination for me after cape results are out. I need some insight into this. Alot of reading and research to be done. Well back to trolling Flacko in the soccer (football b------s) thread .
Jul 6, 2016 i don't know how to respond to this because i've been trying to just get out of the convo since it started, but i really want to point out it's nowhere near as straightforward as you're making it out to be before i do
Jul 6, 2016 if i was black and police were killing black people who struggle every week (which they are), the last thing i'd be doing is struggling id lay down on the ground myself and do anything i could so if i was shot it would look obvious as f--- on camera
Jul 6, 2016 theory about america you have f---in stupid gun control laws (imo) and police obviously carry a gun and because police are above the law, they feel they need to be more aggressive with their guns this results in shootings like we see in the Orlando club, and shootings like Alton Sterling, where police are over aggressive with their guns in most other countries i feel like the police are much more relaxed with their guns because they know most people are unarmed
Jul 6, 2016 you're wrong right off the bat most states have pretty strict gun control laws which do not allow you to own "any size gun you want" by the way, most, if not all gun violence is done with hand guns. So the size is not relevant here.
Jul 6, 2016 so you telling me the word 'size' stuck out at you at being the main point of that post? size aint relevant but if i take size out of that post do you agree?
