Jul 6, 2016 With all due respect, why do you always have to bring up Jamaica? The vast majority of the population in JA are blacks (92%) and the rest is mostly mixed, both cases are not comparable at all
Jul 6, 2016 With all due respect you have shown you know very little about the intricacies of race in America.
Jul 6, 2016 Not saying I did though. Yes, there are racial intricacies, but these intricacies are less of a problem than the bigger issue of police abusing power, which is a universal problem. I think the focus on the issue should be more on the power dynamic with the police than framing specific instances with racial context. It could be because the guy was black, or it could be because the guy was an ex criminal and they thought they could get away with it. Less publicized or brought to light are instances when white people are killed by police. I'm not familiar with the ultra-specifics of american culture, but i am very familiar with issues of police in brutality and community disputes with law enforcment.
Jul 6, 2016 Look out for chris taylor, goes to my school, a much bigger prodigy than bolt could dream to be. (a few grades below me though so anything could happen to his career). youll see the records broken.
Jul 6, 2016 Dude, I'm just asking you as a human: sit this one out. Time and time again in America it's clear just how wide the gap is between the way the [police/DAs/judges/prison systems] treat white and black people. Police abuse their power in lots of ways, but in America they murder black people with relative impunity. It's a different dynamic than where you're from because not only are the demographics wildly different, but the country's history with race is wildly different.
Jul 6, 2016 Look, I'm not denying the criminal justice system has racial biases, but if I'm a cop and I want to abuse my power, I wouldn't pick a black target. Look at the news the past few years. Black people getting killed by police has been a repeat story for awhile now. I'm more inclined to believe it was the fact Alton was pretty much f----- as he was concealing a weapon on probation, so they killed him. Part of me wants to believe the "he's trying to grab his gun!" theory, I just don't see it at all in the footage shown.
Jul 6, 2016 I know the prevailing wisdom is that North American politics have become so partisan that those on the right and left hate one another, but nah. You and I don't agree politically (or about anything) but you're a right wing guy from Canada who chose to become a teacher when there are plenty of more lucrative fields. I don't know anything else about you but I feel comfortable guessing you're a good dude and not a sociopath. There are obviously hundreds of thousands of American police officers who don't want k--- black people indiscriminately, but the police force attracts (and has for decades) the kind of people who do want exactly that, or at least harbor those same feelings. You've seen a couple killings crop up on the news, but that's only when bystanders get it on video or whatever. Nearly 600 people have been killed by cops this year alone; Native American and black people are killed at a rate nearly three times that of white people: http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...un/01/the-counted-police-killings-us-database I know it's nearly impossible to look at the news coverage of and general reaction to these killings and not see them as politicized, but......they don't have to be. You saw the video. This was an execution. Honest question: Does part of you want to believe that because you don't want to believe police would murder somebody otherwise?
Jul 6, 2016 It certainly is a race thing in these specific cases, and it's a combination of hate and fear. A lot of white people in general fear black people and that's just what happens in any society with different classes; the poorer class usually has more criminal cases and so everyone identifies people that can identify with that class to be dangerous. In our society that class happens to be Black people. This was murder. However being in the black community, I hate these cases for two reasons. One, because of the incident itself. Two, because of the extended rift between black and white people in general that these incidents always cause. I don't want to save officers like these guys, and other racist white people by grouping them with whites in general. Then they have a group to back them up. As soon as we (black people) say "All white people do this and that!" we make the REAL perpetrators victims with protection from those not involved but still accused. I want these racist f---s isolated and alone. I want the outcry to be "THESE white people do this stuff, get THEM" so they get attacked from all sides, black and white. Just my thoughts.
Jul 6, 2016 Yeah, but that doesnt make it a different issue. The root cause is universal, regardless of the the subtleties involved. Because the racism is on an individual level and not institutionalized , and police killing blacks, if at all because of racism would simply be a combination of the that and the power dynamic of having a gun and laws that justify shooting people. This is my point. The narrative that the police force is racist is a brash generalization. Are they oppressive? d--- well they might be, but the reasion is more because of class than race. More white people are victim to police shootings, but police shootings is used synonymously with racism instead of what it truly is. Yes, but black people commit half of all the murders despite being 20% of the population as well or the fact that blacks have a higher poverty rate. Don't you see the correlation between police brutality and murder statistics. And thats ignoring that 3 times as much white people have been killed by blacks anyways. the narrative is taking the conversation too far from the real issue And that's my problem here. Police brutality isn't a black issue, it's a human issue.
Jul 6, 2016 The reason why I want to side with the cops is because other like minded people are siding with the cops. I feel like I'm floating through space on this issue, it's frustrating, you show the right the video and they don't even have a proper counter argument. It's scary seeing folk make their minds up before seeing the f---ing video. Personally, I've never liked American police, and have been disgusted by their behaviour throughout the years. But since they're killing blacks and poor people it's okay give them the right to abuse their power according to the right. I thought we were supposed to be for smaller government with less control over the people, not sucking authorities d-ck because they have to drive a Crown Victoria around a predominantly black neighborhood, Jesus Christ. Ideaology truly is a dumpster fire. By the way, you're a good guy, I give you too much s---.
Jul 6, 2016 Nah, this is simply not the case. When I have more time later today I'll put together a brief history for you. Police racism is very much a systemic, institutionalized thing, especially in major cities. Yeah, I mean, I imagine if I were a conservative on other issues I'd feel similarly. Nearly everything that happens these days, people file into the lines their parties do. But as you point out here, it's beyond the pale now, and people have made up their mind that Sterling deserved it or was threatening the officers' lives. It's horrifying. I'm glad and impressed you can step outside of that--maybe it's because Canada fosters more open-mindedness, at least in my experience. Good on you.
Jul 6, 2016 I'm fairly certain these officers will be prosecuted--the Justice Department is already investigating. But who knows what will happen; I would have bet my house that we'd get at least one conviction stemming from Freddie Gray's death.
