Dec 23, 2017

“When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime, their rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.”

Accusing Mexico of sending over their violent criminals is not the same as generalizing an entire race. “Statistically and factually” wrong, fine, but that's another conversation. @Enigma, if you are trying make a case for Donald Trump being a bigot, you're going to have to do better than that.

 

Dec 23, 2017

What are you talking about? The NYT endorses communism.

 

Dec 23, 2017

Uh he did both. He clearly saids “and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime, they’re rapists. And I assume some are good people.” That’s generalizing lol.

“NYT endorses communism!”

*links to NYT *opinion* twitter account*

Com’on dude lol. Do you know what an opinion column is?

 

Dec 23, 2017

Yet somehow I doubt if Fox News’ opinion page endorsed Nazism, you would just shrug it off.

 

Dec 23, 2017

Again, an opinion column is for people to voice their own opinions. It’s not representative of the outlet it is published on. Secondly, did you even care to read the opinion piece? It’s about how opportunities for women improved under Mao but how the promises of the communist party weren’t totally fulfilled. The communist party would push propaganda of women being equal to men & while their status did improve — they still were not treated as equals to men. It’s not endorsing communism at all.

Also, the NYT published a piece a couple weeks ago where they interviewed a neo-Nazi & talked to him about his daily life. The NYT got a lot of s--- for it as you can imagine & they deserved it. The piece was reckless & was seemingly trying to normalize white supremacy.

 

Dec 23, 2017

Don't know where this part of my reply disappeared to:

their* rapists. People like to misquote this all the time. Illegal immigration in the US has been a problem for a long time. Trump was right to point this out. He just wasn't being PC about it because that's not him.

You do realize that much of the NYT's political content outside their opinion page is opinion/analysis, not objective reporting?

Oh god, this sounds a lot like what a communist apologist would say. "Oh, it wasn't real communism. It was never implemented properly. Real communism has never been tried!”

If it was just propaganda, why write in glowing praise of it? “The Communist revolution taught Chinese women to dream big” sounds a lot like an endorsement/apology to me. I'm amazed that you're actually defending this.

Worse, the NYT has repeatedly defended Antifa, who openly and explicitly endorse communism. Their bias is patent.

 

Dec 24, 2017

Their or they’re — it really doesn’t matter. It’s a false statement. Assuming only “some are good people” is a wrong assumption.

The point of the piece wasn’t to advocate for communism at all. It’s reflecting on the lives of women & how their status changed when China became a communist nation. That’s literally all it is. The world is a complex place. There’s pros & cons to everything. This is a quote straight from the article:

““The Communists did many terrible things,” my grandmother always says at the end of her reminiscences. “But they made women’s lives much better.””

Claiming communists did “many terrible things” is not an endorsement at all lol.

Worse than nazism? Why did you like this post @Sign Language you’re better than that.

 

Dec 24, 2017

Dont bother with @Enigma he supports terrorist organizations

 

Dec 24, 2017

How’s that Seth Rich conspiracy coming along bud?

 

Dec 24, 2017

Fine, but he did previously qualify that statement by saying, “When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best.”

No, they didn’t. No one’s status improved. Communism, wherever it was tried, invariably turned everyone into slaves. Everyone became equally miserable. This is literally pro-communist propaganda coming from the New York Times and you’re gobbling up every scrap of it. Incredible.

That’s not what I said. The NYT defending self-stated communists is worse than simply interviewing someone who is supposedly a white supremacist. (I’m not sure I’ve ever met a white supremacist, but whatever.)

But if you want to go there, that's fine. Let's see...Communism killed tens of millions, possibly over 100 million people both directly and indirectly. So yeah. The two are certainly comparable. Even The Washington Post would agree:

Yes, antifa is the moral equivalent of neo-Nazis

Last weekend in Berkeley, Calif., a group of neo-communist antifa — “anti-fascist” — thugs attacked peaceful protesters at a “No to Marxism in America” rally, wielding sticks and pepper spray, and beating people with homemade shields that read (I kid you not) “No Hate.” The Post reports how one peaceful protester “was attacked by five black-clad antifa members, each windmilling kicks and punches into a man desperately trying to protect himself.” Members of the Berkeley College Republicans were then stalked by antifa goons who followed them to a gas station and demanded they “get the [expletive] out” of their car, warning, “We are real hungry for supremacists and there is more of us.”

The organizer of the anti-Marxism protest is not a white supremacist. Amber Cummings is a self-described “transsexual female who embraces diversity” and had announced on Facebook that “any racist groups like the KKK [and] Neo Nazis . . . are not welcome.” The protest was needed, Cummings said, because “Berkeley is a ground zero for the Marxist Movement.”

As if to prove Cummings’s point, the antifa movement responded with jackboots and clubs — because their definition of “fascist” includes not just neo-Nazis but also anyone who opposes their totalitarian worldview.

And let’s be clear: Totalitarian is precisely what they are. Mark Bray, a Dartmouth lecturer who has defended antifa’s violent tactics, recently explained in The Post, “Its adherents are predominantly communists, socialists and anarchists” who believe that physical violence “is both ethically justifiable and strategically effective.” In other words, they are no different from neo-Nazis. Neo-Nazis are the violent advocates of a murderous ideology that killed 25 million people last century. Antifa members are the violent advocates of a murderous ideology that, according to “The Black Book of Communism,” killed between 85 million and 100 million people last century. Both practice violence and preach hate. They are morally indistinguishable. There is no difference between those who beat innocent people in the name of the ideology that gave us Hitler and Himmler and those who beat innocent people in the name of the ideology that gave us Stalin and Dzerzhinsky.

The United States defeated two murderous ideologies in the 20th century. So we should all be repulsed by the sight of our fellow Americans carrying the banners of either movement, whether they are waving the red flags of communism or black flags of Nazism. Yet we are not. Communism is not viewed as an evil comparable to Nazism today. As Alex Griswold recently pointed out, the New York Times has published no fewer than six opinion pieces this year defending communism, including essays praising Lenin as a conservationist, explaining why Stalinism inspired Americans, and arguing that the Bolsheviks were romantics at heart and that women had better sex under communism. Can one imagine the Times running similar pieces about the Nazis?

My mother and grandfather fought the Nazis in Poland during World War II, and her family then endured the Stalinist terror that followed, when Nazi occupation was replaced by Soviet domination. So forgive me if I see little moral distinction between the swastika and the hammer and sickle. Both are evil, and their modern adherents need to be condemned — especially when they dare to commit acts of violence in our midst to advance their hateful visions.

Both the left and the right have a responsibility to police their own movements. In the 1960s, William F. Buckley excommunicated the John Birch Society, widely believed then to be anti-Semitic and a proponent of nutty conspiracy theories, from the respectable right, and today, conservatives have a responsibility to do the same with the white nationalists of the alt-right.

Those on the left have responsibilities as well — responsibilities few are meeting. On Monday I asked the office of House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) for her statement of condemnation. To her credit, Pelosi issued a strong statement Tuesday, declaring, “The violent actions of people calling themselves antifa in Berkeley this weekend deserve unequivocal condemnation, and the perpetrators should be arrested and prosecuted. In California, as across all of our great nation, we have deep reverence for the Constitutional right to peaceful dissent and free speech. Non-violence is fundamental to that right.”

Good for her. So why haven’t more leading Democrats done the same? After Charlottesville, the media rightly demanded that President Trump and all Republicans condemn the neo-Nazis and the KKK. So where are the calls for Democrats to condemn antifa — and the brutal public condemnation for those who fail to do so? If black-clad neo-Nazis had attacked peaceful protesters at a “No to Racism in America” march in Berkeley, politicians in Washington would be falling over themselves to express their disgust — and any who failed to do so would be vilified. But when neo-communists commit this kind of violence, they get a pass from the left.

That cannot be allowed to stand.​

 

Dec 24, 2017

Lmao keep supporting terrorist organizations...its hilarious how you try to equate news stories to supporting terrorist groups

 

Dec 24, 2017

Or “neo-communists,” to be exact (thanks WaPo).

 

Dec 24, 2017

FBI Director Hoover referred to the Black Panthers as the “greatest threat to internal security of the country.” He even declared war on them. I mean, if you want to group Antifa with the likes of ISIS & Al-Qeada be my guest but you’ll look dumb lol.

 

Dec 24, 2017

In other words, trump has spent ~32% of his presidency at one of his properties & 25% of his presidency golfing lol. Remember when he said he wouldn’t have time to golf?

 

Dec 25, 2017

Yeah, but he probably lowered your taxes. Merry Christmas.

 

Dec 25, 2017

Enigma is a giant corporation?

 

Dec 25, 2017

Ironic that you trust giant corporations to tell you the truth on this.