Politics The Official Donald Trump Administration Thread

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  1. Alchemist34
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    Well ya I prefer reliable sources over an opinion piece of a youtuber with a shirt that says demons are watching
     
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  2. VVebber
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    This random YouTuber predicted Trump's victory with almost pinpoint accuracy, while “reliable sources” like FiveThirtyEight were 8 points off on average during the election. How does that work?

     
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  3. Alchemist34
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    we're not talking about predicting elections tho
     
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    You are the one who changed the subject. What's a reliable source to you?
     
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  5. Alchemist34
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    Alchemist34 DO MY HEAD

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    It's a fact that over half of bankruptcies in the U.S are due to medical bills. Obviously the wealthy can just pay the bills. The middle class cant afford tens of thousands of dollars for treatments. It is easier on the middle class to pay extra tax instead of a $60 thousand dollar bill


    I'm not sure what a reliable source for this would be since it's just common sense that paying an extra tax is better than paying a $50k bill, as evidenced by the fact over half of bankruptcies are due to medical bills. There's really no argument for it
     
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  6. VVebber
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    f---ing over the American middle class to help a bunch of poor people get half-assed insurance is no solution. It's not even good insurance and it's way overpriced. The only real beneficiaries are the insurance companies. It's a scam.
     
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  7. Alchemist34
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    Alchemist34 DO MY HEAD

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    medical bills and treatments can be insanely expensive = fact
    over half of bankruptcies are due to medical bills = fact
    most of these are middle class people/families = fact
    a lot of people don't get treatment and actually die because they can't afford the extraordinary medical bills =fact
    there is constantly silly amounts of premiums to pay and insurance companies refusing to pay for certain medicine/ conditions/treatments = fact
    Insurance companies benefit more without healthcare plans = fact
    it is easier on a middle class family to pay extra tax than it is to get unexpected medical bills because paying tax is easier than paying a $100-$200k cancer treatment = fact

    you simply have no argument
     
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  8. Enigma
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    Middle-Class Americans would be the one’s to most benefit from universal healthcare lol. This f---ing guy.
     
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  9. VVebber
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    You're missing the bigger picture. The whole system needs radical reform. Medical bills don't have to be insanely expensive, they can be totally affordable for most people under the right conditions. As for the impoverished, I don't oppose the idea of subsidizing them but it doesn't have to be done on the backs of middle-class Americans. As Warwick summarizes at the end of the video, “We can subsidize healthcare directly without insurance companies acting as extrmeley expensive middlemen.” Like I said, the entire system needs to be overhauled. All Obama ever did was screw over the middle class and s--- off private corporate entities.
    “Yeah, communism killed up to 100 million people but it was great for women's rights!”

    This f---in' guy.
     
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  10. Enigma
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    Nice cop out lol. I never said this but please continue.
     
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  11. VVebber
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    Yeah, you did. Or at leas that's the gist that any sane individual would come away with after reading your drivel.

    By the way, how's that Michael Flynn conspiracy coming along? I would advise you not to hold your breath but that would probably be for the best in light of your dangerous ideology/worldview.
     
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    In other (real) news, ISIS is much weaker than it was before Trump took office. But I doubt the MSM will give credit where it's due.
     
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  13. Enigma
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    ISIS has been getting weaker for years. Before Trump was even inaugurated, Iraqi forces were planning to take back Mosul, their last stronghold in Iraq.
     
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    :'(
     
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  15. Enigma
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    Enigma Civil liberties > Police safety

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    Over a year before Trump was inaugurated. You’re bad at this lol.
     
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    Trump campaigned by saying he knew more about ISIS than the US military generals and if he was elected he would completely wipe them out in 30 days.
     
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  17. Enigma
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    This could possibly be the dumbest thing he’s tweeted all year:

     
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    Right. It had nothing to do with Trump, as he himself put it, letting the military do its job instead of interfering like Obama did. Others such as retired Air Force Lieutenant General David Deptula have echoed this criticism.
    US 'mother of all bombs' killed 92 Isis militants, say Afghan officials
    Donald Trump’s Vow to Hit ISIS “10 Times Harder” Guarantees More Terrorism Against Americans (lol)
    Lying by omission is still lying. You're bad at this.
     
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    I dislike trump, but he’s definitely doing a better job against Isis than Obama did towards the end of his term. However, isis was a lot bigger when Obama was still in and isis were getting a lot weaker during Obama’s final few terms compared to before 2015

    Still though trump did a better job than expected with isis and the majority of the military seems to favor his tactics towards isis compared to when Obama was in office.
     
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    Obama bombed the middle east over 300 times a day in 2015 alone. He did much more to k--- ISIS than trump
     
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