Jan 27, 2018

yeah well nobody is saying "Russia released dirt on Hillary and showed a bias towards Trump" and instead are constantly saying "russia hacked the elections"

(not to mention guessing a password, or falling for a phishing scam is not the same as getting hacked. Your security wasn't breached, you just never set the security up properly.)

Almost think that's giving them too much credit. Though obamin08 would be a pretty easy apssword to guess. But f--- me dead lol, isn't it common knowledge to add a bit of variation to passwords? like maybe throw in a number or capital letter? like lmfao it's related to national security and these dumb f---s chuck on the most basic 6 letter password f---ing looooooooool.

"yes the NSA spies on people all around the world including political figures and uh... oh s---... russia just guessed our password"

 

Jan 27, 2018

like I can picture it now

Putin: Ok, Sergei, the American dogs have used their NSA to spy on us I request you look into this matter further and attempt to find out what they know/what they are spying on
not 5 minutes later Sergei burst into Putin's office
Sergei: Putin! CYKA BLJAT PIZDA 2 SHOTS OF VODKA AND I GUESS THERE PASSWORD HOY YOY YOY

 

Jan 27, 2018

Well, this is the same DNC that came up with "If you think we're bad you should see the other guys" as one of their midterm slogans. But they really outdid themselves when they gave a shoutout to Antifa, as if that wouldn't harm their already dismal approval ratings. They don't even seem to realize they should be in damage control mode.

Imagine trusting the NSA though. The same NSA, as I already mentioned, that lied about Russian meddling in the French election.

The NSA Confirms It: Russia Hacked French Election ‘Infrastructure’

One month later:

The Latest: France says no trace of Russian hacking Macron

Then we skeptics get labeled conspiracy theorists. Too funny.

 

Jan 28, 2018

What do you mean nobody is saying that? That’s the whole story: the Russians hacked inside the DNC/Podesta’s email & leaked their emails via WikiLeaks in attempt to push the election in Donald Trump’s favor. That’s what all this is about.

As far as phishing scams go, these emails were sent to hundreds of DNC/Clinton officials. All it took is for one of them to fall for it. You’re acting like these were your stereotypical Nigerian prince phishing scams. The AP reported that they were dressed up to look like they came from Google, the same company who set up the Clinton campaign’s email infrastructure. It’s not inconceivable that a couple individuals out of the hundreds that these emails were sent to, fell for it.

We also don’t know all the facts. The declassified report from the DNI even states, “[W]hile the conclusions in the report are all reflected in the classified assessment, the declassified report does not and cannot include the full supporting information, including specific intelligence and sources and methods." So whatever other methods these hackers may have used, we don’t know about.

https://www.snopes.com/2017/05/10/french-election-russian-hack/

The NSA didn’t lie. They came to a different conclusion than French Intelligence. The two hacks beared similarities which led to different conclusions/uncertainty. Also, the fact that the same Russian cyber-espionage group was trying to infiltrate Macron’s political party a month prior only indicates them further.

 

Jan 28, 2018

? I mean nobody is saying that, they are saying "russia hacked the election". hacking and being tricked aren't the same thing. lmao.

 

Jan 28, 2018

You’re arguing semantics here & it’s besides the point.

 

Jan 28, 2018

no I'm not. hacking and guessing a password aren't the same thing r-----. clicking a link in an email is not the same as infecting peoples machines with a rootkit. Phishing isn't even hacking, it's a scam/fraud.

what f---ing point? your ESL posts are so f---ing hard to comprehend, look;

So, your point is they hacked the election? Ok that's great but as I already stated, Phising scams are not hacks

 

Jan 28, 2018

Snopes gtfo here with that partisan crap.

Just like they didn't lie about illegally wiretapping US citizens for years?

Right. That's why France found no trace whatever of Russian hacking, huh? The fact that there is zero overlap between their conclusions probably means someone is lying, and my smart money is on the NSA.

Don't believe everything you read.

 

Jan 28, 2018

word you are looking for is "implicates"

 

Jan 28, 2018

Idk where you’re getting “guessing peoples passwords” from. Arguing the distinction between hacking & phishing isn’t really important. Both share similarities & can be used hand-in-hand. Like I said earlier, we don’t know all the facts so the intelligence community probably knows more about the methods that these hackers used than us.

What I found from a quick google search:

https://blog.varonis.com/whats-difference-hacking-phishing/

That when most people refer to “Russian hacking” they understand that means the Russians obtaining DNC/Podesta emails & leaking them, not the *actually* hacking into voting machines & changing votes.

 

Jan 28, 2018

Seriously though. As if it would require a sophisticated phisher working for the Russian government to fool a bunch of computer illiterate 65-year-olds who didn't even think to use decent password protection.

 

Jan 28, 2018

the 'guessing password' thing is more to do with the comments VVebber made - i didn't look into it, or see if it actually happened just thought it may have been worth mentioning as it was also on this page.

yeah, well, maybe the distinction isn't that important to you, but it is for me. Especially when taking into consideration the IQ level needed to achieve a phishing scam is at a grade 2 level and the expertise and intricate creativeness you need to get a rootkit onto another persons machine is something you'd need a lot of intelligence, time and patience to achieve. If I spent 10 mins right now, I could achieve some low-level phishing scam on someone right now, it is not difficult. I'd probably have to spend 10 years+ learning code, server infrastructure, creating programs/apps just to be able to hack some stupid video game companies server and even after all that, the amount of access to the server/damage I can do will still be very limited.

You'd be surprised. Actual hacking requires a lot of skill and majority of the time goes unnoticed. Though yes I do not think many people assume that russia hacked and changed election votes. my problem with the hacking isn't some anti-DNC/Hillary s--- either and is something I've always felt autistic about. Like I'm sure you've seen some idiot post
"omg someone hacked my facebook" before? and it's like well no, obviously, you left ya s--- logged in cause your a dumb c----. It's the same sort of principle. I don't expect you to understand though as it's "nerdy COMPUTAH" s---. but Hacking requires like an amazing brain, it's not a skill you just pick up and can apply to any IT infrastructure. you have to adapt to whatever your hacking. Unfortunately (for you) American IT-security/e-security is obviously so piss poor, any Russian with a laptop over the age of 10 could have phishing scammed those emails. It's honestly laughable to say you were "hacked" cause it implies a lot of effort was involved in getting that information and leaking it, when in reality, it was not much effort at all.

 

Jan 28, 2018

Actually, it's America. of course there are people who think Russia hacked and changed peoples votes directly. In fact, i'd go as far as saying the entirety of slab city thinks it lol.

 

Jan 29, 2018

Deputy FBI Director has “stepped down” from his post. Some news outlets are reporting that he was forced out. Fox News is reporting that he was straight up removed. He was suppose to retire in March.

 

Jan 29, 2018

The trump administration is holding off on implementing Russian sanctions that congress passed bipartisanly & trump signed last year.

 

Jan 30, 2018

Good.

 

Jan 30, 2018

I did some hacking when I was younger, it's actually a lot easier than you would expect to get into emails/accounts online without phishing. Something bigger scale would definitely be really difficult but getting into emails even if it's someone famous/in a high political position actually isn't that difficult if you know what you're doing.

Also something I learned from that is there's a lot of dumb a--- people who send their credit card information directly through emails.

 

Jan 30, 2018

The speech was great

 

Jan 30, 2018

Speech was too d--- long, that’s what it was.