Politics The Official Donald Trump Administration Thread

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  1. VVebber
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    There's No Way Mueller Will Indict Trump
    Those hoping the special counsel will prosecute the president are engaging in fantasy.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...ldnt-be-the-indictment-decision-maker/551753/

    Sorry @Enigma. I hate to say I told you so, but yeah, people in the alt media — across the political spectrum — have been saying this for months. The MSM on the other hand doesn't exactly work like greased lightning when it comes to arriving at the truth.
     
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    The most amusing thing about vvebber is everything you throw at him is bias, fake news or false unless it’s something that supports his narrative. When did I ever say Mueller will prosecute Trump?

    In other news:

     
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    Except I actually bother to explain why I think something is biased, fake news or false, whereas you just brush aside any story that goes against your narrative, regardless of the source. You have no room to call me a cherry-picker.

    Anyway, maybe now you'll finally let up with this pretentious rambling nonsense:
    (Or maybe that's just wishful thinking on my end.)
     
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    I literally say in that first post you quote that trump being forced to step down may not be the conclusion. Can you not read? Lol. There’s a legitimate debate on both side if Mueller is able to prosecute the president as special counsel. It’s not a route I think Mueller would like to take considering it would create a constitutional crisis but it’s certainly on the table. The more likely event is Mueller discusses his findings with the deputy AG and/or Congress, along with his recommendation of what to do moving forward. If Dems take back even just one of the houses of Congress in 18’, the probability of Trump getting impeached goes up.

    I also think if Mueller were to advise impeachment, Republicans would be forced to take action. Could you imagine the political backlash if republicans ignored the advice of the special counsel & allowed Trump’s breaking of the law, go unpunished? Trump’s approval numbers are low as is. He’s been a thorn on the side of the GOP since he announced his campaign. Better of just tossing him out & having Pence finish it out.
     
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    So the president released a partisan memo today that was created by republican congressmen behind closed doors. Trump released the memo against the advice of his own DOJ, FBI & a bipartisan group of congressmen. Trump (and republicans who drafted it) claims this memo proves bias within the FBI against him. Those who oppose it & have read It claim it’s misleading, has nitpicked information & some totally inaccurate information. Regardless, trump released it & it’s pretty much a big nothing burger:



     
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    More pretentious rambling nonsense. Thought so.

    Trump will not be indicted simply because he did nothing wrong. Stop trying to make this more nuanced than it is.
     
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    The Nunez Memo has exposed a deep and dangerous political bias in Devin Nunez.
     
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    The media is in full cover-up mode, but no amount of whitewashing or partisan spin can erase the fact that the fake Fusion dossier, which was paid for by the DNC and the Clinton camp, was used as a pretext to spy on Carter Page. This is proof of a collusion between the Clinton camp, the FBI and the media in an effort to take down the president.
     
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    Carter Paige was a person of interest for the FBI since 2013 you nerd. Also, the dossier wasn’t the only evidence that the FBI presented to the court.
     
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    You can quote or mention me next time you little sissy.

    Those are red herrings. The dossier, which the FBI knew at the time to be fake, was instrumental in obtaining FISA warrants to conduct surveillance on Trump associates. This is exactly what Trump said happened.

    This is probably why the DNC CEO resigned a couple of days ago, and why the Atlantic is saying Mueller won't indict Trump.
     
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    All that happened with releasing this memo was tell Putin when Papadopalis and Carter were made.


    It doesn't prove Obama tapp the Trump Tower microwave or Hillary killed Seth Rich when she was robbing him at the ATM or whatever Trumptards believe this week.
     
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    :lmaooo:
     
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    https://www.politico.com/story/2018/02/02/trump-russia-indictment-mueller-probe-384969
    http://www.newsweek.com/can-trump-b...tice-id-bet-against-president-attorney-798568
    http://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...obe-believe-mueller-could-indict-trump-report

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    I'm sincerely puzzled how anybody at this point can reasonably expect a Trump indictment by the special counsel. Thanks to the FISA memo we now know that the FBI already spied on him vicariously for the better part of a year, so what makes you think Mueller has any dirt on Trump? If he did he would have indicted him months ago, but again, the only dirt he found was Manafort laundering money with Tony Podesta years ago and Flynn talking to the Turkish government and to some Russian businessman at Netanyahu’s behest. But now we're supposed to ignore all this on the mere say-so of a few pinstriped shysters? I call bs and anyone still peddling this tripe is gonna look like a moron when Mueller finally announces that he found nothing on Trump.
     
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    The FISA memo doesn't say Trump was spied on... it says Papadopalis and Carter were investigated for their connections to the Russian government.
     
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    What connections to the Russian government?
     
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    The ones they referenced when they bragged about working for Putin "informally."
     
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    Once again, Page was targeted because of the dossier, which had already been discredited by Comey himself as “salacious and unverified.” (Yet he briefed Trump on it and presented it to the FISA court anyway, and you wonder why Trump fired him.)

    Papadopoulos's Kremlin ties are dubious at best.
    http://www.nationalreview.com/artic...rrative-reset-george-papadopoulos-carter-page

    At any rate, none of this points to Trump. So I'll ask you again: what makes you think there's even a slim chance he'll be indicted?
     
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    Carter Page has been known to associate with Russian spies since 2013.
     
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    Then why did the FBI have to use knowingly false evidence in order to obtain a spying warrant, without even disclosing its partisan origin to the court?
     
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