Politics The Official Donald Trump Administration Thread

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  1. eddie313
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    Even if I have a biased source using tax payer dollars to pay for the surgeries and time off from military duty is just sickening...we could be spending money on anything else but that
    http://www.thedalleschronicle.com/news/2017/aug/15/crosstalk-trans-military-good-or-bad/
     
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  2. Enigma
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    What standard is that? If you have a Depression or anxiety disorder, that doesn’t automatically ban you from joining the military.
     
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  3. Enigma
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    Again, it’s not a “tremendous medical cost.” 0.017% of the defense budget goes to transgender medical costs. Like I said, if you’re not bitching about the government paying for medication for soldiers to get their d-ck up, this is a double standard.
     
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    Yes they are lol, depression, bipolar, being on certain medication, even a past of mental illness, etc. are all very likely to disqualify you.

    Even sleepwalking will get you disqualified
     
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    That's a bandwagon fallacy, not an argument. Transgenders are prone to depression and anxiety, so by your logic they shouldn't be permitted to own a gun — but you'll fight tooth and nail for their “right” to serve in the military? Do you know how kooky you sound?
     
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    The psychological implications for your example does not impose the same ramifications on America as a whole. Wanting sex because of a biological imbalance and a surgical procedure to change one's gender are different...medications fall under an umbrella for all medical conditions for funding. Sex changing is an accessory and also goes against the grain for a mentally stable soldier imo
     
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    You have to have received outpatient/inpatient care for 24 months for depression/anxiety disorder(s) to disqualify you. It’s not just a simple “oh you’ve been disagnosed with ____. You don’t qualify.”
     
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    That literally makes no sense, not everyone depressed or that has anxiety even gets help for it, nevermind for 24 months
     
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    You’re the one that was complaining about medical cost; I never claimed the two medical treatments fell under the same umbrella. I’m just saying: you can’t conplain about one cost & not the other. Secondly, the supposed “psychological implications” you’re referring too haven’t proven to be an issue in the past. Like I said, the medical community has been clear on this. The American medical association has said repeatedly there are no medically valid reasons to exclude trans people from military service.

    The point is this: there are already restrictions on individuals who have depression, anxiety, bipolar or any other mental illness out there. Whether you’re transgender or not — those restrictions could prevent you from serving. What’s problematic is that this administration is lumping gender dysphoria with the rest when it shouldn’t be.
     
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    We shouldn’t be paying for a soldier’s viagra or sex change.
     
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    I don’t have issue with either. If you’re serving our country, you deserve to be taken care of.
     
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    There is a fine line between preventative care and general health being paid for, but paying for viagra and a sex change is bs.

    A sex change is that individual’s choice and shouldn’t be paid for with other people’s tax dollars.
     
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    By the same argument, all other cosmetic operations should be covered as well, from facial rejuvenation to breast enhancement. But that's absurd.
     
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    Interesting the medical association said that ...and yes its the cost is what Im against tax payers helping fund...anyway great decision by Trump to keep America straight imo
     
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  15. Enigma
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    Those are not equivalents at all but you know that.

    Tax payers funding the medical costs for our veterans? They put their life on the line. They shouldn’t need to worry about any medical costs as far as I’m concerned.
     
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    Medical costs for a sex change ? No way
     
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    They're cosmetic, has nothing to do with their health.

    If you want to chop your d-ck off taxpayers shouldn't have to pay for it.
     
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  18. Enigma
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    Sex change is not a cosmetic. I haven’t heard of anyone getting a sex change to improve their appearance.
     
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    It's not for a health reason, so it is a cosmetic surgery. Unless your d-ck is infected and it needs to be removed that's cosmetic.
     
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    It is for health reasons. It’s a form a of treatment for their gender dysphoria. So they feel comfortable in their own bodies & are happier with their lives in general.
     
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