Politics The Official Donald Trump Administration Thread

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  1. Michael Myers
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    Agree to an extent.

    But yeah he's such a 15 year old for tweeting etc. You would think he would change after winning but he's the same child as before.
     
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  2. Dread or Alive
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    Dread or Alive Kamikaze should've been released 3 years ago

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    from the executive order.

    This is a paradox of sorts. When faced between undermining liberty to defend liberty, or the when liberty allows for the expansion of an ideology that goes directly counter to it. Christianity is less radical in certain aspects. People aren't killed for speaking out against it. That's why typically christian countries have been more friendly (less hostile(less murderous)) to atheism and secularism.

    There is no right or wrong answer to this. Unless Islam undergoes mass reform, it's simply incompatible with western society. And the muslim street patrols, r--- gangs, and terrorism in europe is what trump is trying to avoid. His methodology is too simplistic and maybe even idiotic but the 'liberal' morons should spend more time critiquing the implications than the intentions.

    Unless you already forgot how you let trump win in the first place.
     
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  3. Kush Gawd
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    What's wrong with reaching people directly through social media?
     
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  4. Michael Myers
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    honestly I liked you and @Enigma more when u guys weren't just obsessing about that clown president
     
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  5. Enigma
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    Enigma Civil liberties > Police safety

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    I liked people here more when they weren't defending idiotic behavior. I have friends who are republicans that are equally outraged by the stupid s--- trump does/says. Here it's like no matter what, there's some ridiculous defense.

    Talking about idiotic behavior: the trump administration is requesting that foreigners give up their social media info and phone contacts.
     
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  6. Michael Myers
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    I don't give a s--- what he says I meant more like, there is more to s80 than just post about trump
     
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  7. Enigma
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    Enigma Civil liberties > Police safety

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    I just don't like posting about music much anymore. I'll post for big releases but I mainly stay in here and the sports section.
     
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  9. Enigma
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    Enigma Civil liberties > Police safety

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    From 1975 to 2015:

    Chance of American killed by foreigner in attack on U.S. soil - 1 in 3.6 million per year

    Chance of American murdered in attack caused by refugee - 1 in 3.64 billion per year

    Still struggling to see how this is suppose to keep us more safe.
     
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  10. KimBwl
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    Trump is principally relying on his inherent constitutional authority.

    Because of the national-security distinction between Trump’s 2017 order and Congress’s 1965 objective, it is not necessary to construe them as contradictory, and principles of constitutional interpretation counsel against doing so.

    Nevertheless, let’s concede for argument’s sake that there is conflict. At issue is a matter related to the conduct of foreign affairs – a matter of the highest order of importance since it involves foreign threats to national security. If there were a conflict here, the president’s clear constitutional authority to protect the United States would take precedence over Congress’s dubious authority to limit the president’s denial of entry to foreign nationals.

    But there is no conflict.

    Federal immigration law also includes Section 1182(f), which states: “Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate” (emphasis added).

    Section 1182(f) plainly and sweepingly authorizes the president to issue temporary bans on the entry of classes of aliens for national-security purposes. This is precisely what President Trump has done. In fact, in doing so, he expressly cites Section 1182(f), and his executive order tracks the language of the statute (finding the entry of aliens from these countries at this time “would be detrimental to the interests of the United States”).

    While Bier ignores the president’s constitutional foreign-affairs authority (although Trump expressly relies on it in the first line of his executive order), he concedes that Trump is relying on a statute. He theorizes, nevertheless, that because Section 1182(f) was enacted in 1952, whereas the non-discrimination provision (Section 1152(a)) was enacted years afterward, the latter must be deemed to have amended the former – thus removing the president’s authority to impose class restrictions based on the aliens’ country of origin.

    Nice try.

    Put aside that Trump is principally relying on his inherent constitutional authority, and that the class restriction he has directed is based on national-security, not racial or ethnic considerations. Trump’s executive order also expressly relies on an Obama-era provision of the immigration law, Section 1187(a)(12), which governs the Visa Waiver Program. This statute empowers the executive branch to waive the documentation requirements for certain aliens. In it, Congress itself expressly discriminates based on country of origin.

    Under this provision, Congress provides that an alien is eligible for the waiver only if he or she has not been present (a) in Iraq or Syria any time after March 1, 2011; :emoji_beer: in any country whose government is designated by the State Department as “repeatedly provid[ing] support for acts of international terrorism”; or (c) in any country that has been designated by the Department of Homeland Security as a country “of concern.”
    http://www.nationalreview.com/artic...n-entry-seven-muslim-majority-countries-legal
     
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  11. Radeem
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    Radeem I listen to people smarter than me

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  12. Enigma
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    Enigma Civil liberties > Police safety

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  14. Lucy
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    dont think posting this matters. theyll hate him for whatever he does. like cutting funding to third world (outside of the US) planned pregnancy businesses is "controlling womens bodies"
     
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  15. Lucy
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    i liked you more before i found out you're an illegal
     
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  16. blair
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    Thanks, I'm sure you posted something similar to this on Facebook too and your little bubble of friends liked it and commented about how "scared" they are.
     
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  18. WPG
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    why are you so unbothered by this lol
     
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    Translucent I just slapped Dre

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  20. Radeem
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    Do you really think it's the same thing what Obama did?
     
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