Jul 10, 2018

Nice. Good talk.

 

Jul 10, 2018

He hasn't done that though. Trump's SCOTUS pick, who you were so worried about, is not opposed to Roe v. Wade. Once again, Trump is not a social conservative. He doesn't care about issues like abortion.

He's never done this either.

So he should disrespect Kim Jong Un and get nothing accomplished because...he's a dictator? That's moronic.

What specifics? Negotiations are still underway and have just begun. Give it f---ing time and stop being the token naysayer.

https://www.voanews.com/a/pompeo-headed-to-north-korea-for-nuclear-talks/4469014.html

 

Jul 10, 2018

It’s all right here bud. Maybe actually listen to the clips?

 

Jul 10, 2018

If you're just going to repost yourself rather than actually respond to my points then I think I'm done here. Clearly you're the one who picks and chooses when to respond and "talks circles." Amazing how you partisans have no self-awareness whatsoever.

 

Jul 10, 2018

You asked questions that are answered in my original post. That’s why I quoted that post. It’s litetally all there. Like I said, I source everything I post in here. If you’re too much of a lazy a--- to get into it, so be it.

 

Jul 10, 2018

No, it's not. You're just being a circular c----. Your "sources" are other people's opinions, not hard-hitting objective news reporting. You always seem to confuse the two.

 

Jul 10, 2018

My sources are literally clips of the President responding to questions in an interview :s are you stupid? There’s also an NYT article reporting on how N. Korea is concealing aspects of their nuclear program from the U.S. after Trump said he believes/trusts Kim Jong-un. It’s literally all there in your face.

 

Jul 10, 2018

"Wooo! Can’t wait for women’s rights to be gutted for half the country."

^ Pure sensationalism. Roe v. Wade isn't going anywhere.

"Trump weirdly praising a dictator again."

^ Spin.

"Trump fear mongering about brown people again / demonizing minority groups."

^ More spin.

Hes getting played by Kim Jong-un

^ And even more spin. None of your "sources" justifies or bears out any of these claims, except maybe that Trump "praised a dictator," which is just inane twaddle anyway.

This is fearmongering nonsense. There's no practical way for them to do this without us finding out about it sooner than later. Like I said, negotiations are still ongoing. Instead of being a sourpuss why not just let things play out and see what happens? It's amazing Trump has got this far with North Korea, but still you refuse to give him credit for anything.

 

Jul 10, 2018

Again, the president’s words, not mine.

Spin from what?

Criticizing the president for falsely claiming ICE has liberated U.S. towns from MS-13 is spin? He demonizes undocumented immigrants on a daily basis & you justify it.

It’s fear mongering nonsense? Did you totally forget about the deal the Clinton administration made with N. Korea? How did that pan out? Did they follow through? Meanwhile, Trump can’t even answer essential questions on how the U.S. can verify that they’re actually denuclearizing. He goes on some tangent about “trusting Kim.” Oh yeah, that’s real reassuring :S A+ diplomacy.

 

Jul 10, 2018

Again, Brett Kavanaugh does not oppose Roe v. Wade. It's clear Trump doesn't really care about this issue.

Propaganda. Means nothing.

Supposedly making a false claim about ICE's performance ≠ demonizing brown people. You're an idiot.

Apples to oranges comparison. North Korea was able to develop nuclear weapons because Clinton gave them nuclear energy and they ensured that weapons inspectors didn't find anything. Fast forward to 2018, bitter naysayers in the corporate media are driveling about a possible backdoor nuclear test site, which is a non-starter since our radiation/seismic sensors will detect any hydrogen bomb that is set off. Plus North Korea is under enormous economic pressure, China is now involved and negotiations for nuclearization are in progress. There's nothing to worry about.

 

Jul 10, 2018

I think Trump used to care about the abortion issue back when his d-ck worked.

 

Jul 10, 2018

It’s not clear at all. He’s made various comments & rulings in the past that imply he does not ageee with Roe v. Wade. He’s also known for siding with conservatives in close cases. He’s not one to reach over to the other side. If push came to shove, Kavanaugh would over rule Roe v. Wade with the rest of the conservative justices.

Citing the president’s own words is now propaganda :S you’re terrible at this.

This is why you listen to the clip. MS-13 attributes to a fraction of a fraction of crime that happens in the U.S. Trump talks about them as if they’re rampant throughout the country & the evil illegal immigrants are all apart of them. Trump can’t have an honest discussion about illegal immigration without some how tying it to g--- violence/MS-13. That is demonizing.

Its not apples & oranges at all :S it’s literally the same thing. Clinton had a chance to negotiate a denuclearization deal with N. Korea. He made a deal & they didn’t follow through. Trump now has the same opportunity Clinton had. When asked how the U.S. will insure N. Korea is denuclearizing, he couldn’t answer the question. He went on some tangent about trusting Kim. How is that reassuring at all? Especially when there’s reports of N. Korea concealing aspects of their nuclear program, already! U.S. have already admitted that N. Korea is increasing nuclear production:

 

Jul 10, 2018

North korea ain't doing s--- tho .

 

Jul 11, 2018

They're not going to scrap Roe v. Wade when the majority of Americans support it. It's just not happening. Trump especially wouldn't want it overturned since it would hurt him politically. For the 5th time, he's not a moralistic conservative.

"Trump praising dictators" is meaningless drivel to me and to the average person who isn't a partisan Democrat. It's just a bogeyman you trot out to try and scare everyone now and then.

I'm not moved by emotional arguments about minorities, sorry. I don't care what rhetoric Trump uses to combat illegal immigration. It must be stopped, period. That's what he was elected to do.

Blah blah blah. You're just repeating yourself and parroting lamestream propaganda. This is not the same situation at all for the reasons I've given. Trump is not just taking Kim at his word. He's not dumb, contrary to what the legacy media will have you believe.

 

Jul 11, 2018

holy s--- i came in thinking this would be a pretty even debate. @Webber is being destroyed hahahahah. lemme guess:

"spin! you partisans are breathtaking!!!"

...to every comment. no substance, no merit. and lol @ him gesturing like he's a man of the people here or something. pathetic, NO one likes you.

 

Jul 11, 2018

Lol Valley Girl Papa Andy had to come in and save Enigma from utter humiliation. You're both soo angry you have no arguments and have to rely on corporations to try and shut me down. Not gonna work, silly neolibs.

 

Jul 11, 2018

Anyway.

This guy gets it.

 

Jul 11, 2018

If he doesn’t want it, why did he say he was going to appoint judges to over rule it? Also, lol @ thinking Republicans care about public opinion lol. They do as they please. Two thirds of Americans supported hearings for Obama’s Supreme Court nominee Merrick Garland, how did Republicans respond to that? A vast majority of Americans support basic gun control legislation like universal background checks, how have Republicans responded to that? They don’t care.

So the president bashing our closest allies from Mexico to Europe but seemingly praising strongmen like Putin, Jingpin, Duterte etc. isn’t troublesome to you at all? You think the U.S. aligning themselves with some of the worst human rights abusers in the world & slowly breaking down the relationships/alliances the U.S. has developed for decades dating back to WWII, isn’t an important issue. Gotcha.

I don’t give a f--- if you care. You’re a racist piece of s---, I don’t expect you to care. The point was that the president consistently tries to paint undocumented immigrants as the bogeyman by associating them with MS-13. There’s anywhere from 8,000-10,000 MS-13 members throughout the U.S. There are 11 million undocumented immigrants living in the U.S. Hopefully you can figure out how to do the math on that.

Lol that’s literally what your boy said. He said he shook hands with Kim & believes he’ll follow through. He also totally dodged the question regarding how the U.S. would insure N. Korea is denuclearizing. Do you need me to post the video for you again? These are essential questions that U.S. officials — especially the f---ing President — should already have answers to.

 

Jul 11, 2018

@Webber before you respond to enigma's fairly thorough rebuttal to you (accepting your wack weird af trolling at face value... good for him) a few questions:

1. last date you went on?
2. what are your plans for the wknd
3. who is the last human you had a physical interaction w/? hug, handshake, eye contact
4. do you.... like music? LOL