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  1. reservoirGod
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    reservoirGod reckless adventurer.

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    I would think Space Monkey has the same taste of music as starnizzy... since he liked starnizzy's post 75,000 times.
     
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    Strictly for votes. Again, Trump is not a conservative. He's not far right. He's a Manhattan penthouse dweller who pretends to be a conservative to appease his more conservative base. He'll talk a big game about being pro-life, but he has no intention of curbing abortion rights because a. he's not a bible thumper and b. he understands that doing so would be political suicide.

    As for Kavanaugh, regardless of his true feelings on abortion, he's not a hardliner either. He has already said that he would vote to uphold it. At no point has he ever indicated otherwise.

    And I wasn't referring to Republicans. Try as they might, they're never going to get their way on abortion. But you're not going to listen to me, so here's the corporate media flirting with honesty for a change out of sheer boredom, I suppose.
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/su...ade-likely-not-grave-danger-no-matter-n888836
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...1cb691f1402_story.html?utm_term=.f9868e0751a9
    We don't need to improve relations with a Germany or a France. Our alliance with Western Europe is already firmly established and is not in any serious jeopardy. What we need is an end to this paranoid, establishsmentarian, Reds-under-the-bed moral panic nonsense, for example, not to be all buddy-buddy with people like Angela Merkel; that's what Obama was good at, whereas he was a hopeless jackass when it came to dealing with China and North Korea. Apparently the latter is Trump's forte. He knows when to bully and when to be gracious. You forget just a few months ago he was bashing Kim Jong Un, and yet here we are.
    Europe is led largely by corrupt, inept, warmongering, police statist crooks. Mexico is corrupt as s--- too. So please spare me your phony, media-manufactured self-righteous moral outrage - not to mention rank hypocrisy.
    http://theduran.com/kim-trump-summit-democrats-put-partisanship-before-prospects-for-peace/
    Prove it. Actually never mind; you can't even prove that Trump is a racist without playing tortuous mind-reading games and twisting yourself into a pretzel.
    Most Americans who aren't pearl clutching soccer moms would be more worried about those ten thousand MS-13 members at large in the country than about Trump supposedly "demonizing minorities," except he's never done that since the bogeyman he's identified is violent criminals, not illegal immigrants. He has never claimed that the two are one and the same.
    Can't you read between the lines? That's how Trump always talks - with seemingly childlike confidence - but he didn't get to this point by being weak and inept. Like I said, several factors are at play that work in Trump's favor. But you sound like a complete ignoramus expecting him to have all the answers right now. This process could take several years. Rome wasn't built in a day.
    https://consortiumnews.com/2018/06/13/intentions-matter-more-than-weapons/
     
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  3. lil uzi vert stan
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    Space monkey made that post instead of talking to girls :'(

    Edit - Europe is a corrupt police state k
     
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    This is a fancy way of saying he's lying for political gain. That's pretty swamp/establishment-esque if you ask me. Trump's political views have gone back and forth over the years but since 2011 he's been vocally pro-life, going as far as advocating for women who receive an abortion to face legal punishment. His record aside, his actions speak much louder with his administration having rolled back various reproductive health policies for women (rolled back birth control mandate in ACA, attempting to defund planned parenthood, expanding the global gag rule, etc.). So excuse most people with common sense if they fear abortion access will decline under this administration.

    Kavanaugh has never said he would uphold Roe v. Wade. He said as a district judge that the Supreme Court has reiterated it's ruling on the issue and because of that, it's law of the land.

    I love this lmao. When the "corporate media" agrees with you, it's "honesty." When they don't, it's "propaganda/fake news." I also like how you went of your way to nitpick two articles that support your belief and have them represent all of media lol. Yeah, ok dude lol.

    We also don't need to lambast our closest allies with senseless garbage while simultaneously kissing up to our adversaries. You're extremely foolish if you think Western Europe is going follow this administration off a cliff. Various European leaders have publicly stated how Europe can no longer rely on U.S. protection. Just today, an EU Chief said this:



    That's not to mention, Trump has already pissed them off with his ridiculous tariffs. Canada is also pissed and preparing to retaliate with tariffs of their own. We're in a full blown trade war with China that's hurting American workers:





    but yeah, things are going completely well :S

    I've done this at length multiple times already. Y'all make excuse after excuse after excuse. When you've made more racially questionable comments than can fit on two hands, it's not a coincidence. Nor is it when the government sues you for racial discrimination but nonetheless...

    That's because most americans are white and uneducated. They don't give a s--- about undocumented immigrants or how they're treated and that's part of the problem. When you can't discuss the topic of illegal immigration without bringing up MS-13, you're conflating the two. Trump isn't doing that for no reason either, he knows he's stoking fear. He knows if people fear undocumented immigrants, more people will support his immigration policies. It's fear mongering. MS-13 should not be getting as much attention as it is. Like I said, they represent a fraction of a fraction of crime that occurs in the U.S. Yet you have Trump claiming ICE is liberating entire towns from MS-13, get the f--- out of here. For someone asking me to read between the lines, you sure do f---ing s--- at it.

    So let me get this straight, you're suggesting the president went into a meeting with Kim Jong-in with no idea of how the U.S. can verify denuclearization when that was the entire f---ing point of the meeting to begin with. The question that was asked wasn't even a hard question. It's the most basic/fundamental question to this entire issue. If the N. Koreans claim they're going to denuclearize, how can we verify that? I'm not expecting the denuclearization to be completed today. People want specifics of how this process is going to work and how it'll differ from what the Clinton administration did. So far, it looks like it's going down the same path with N. Korea reportedly concealing aspects of their nuclear program and then lashing out at the U.S. for making "gangster-like demands."

    Perhaps I should remind you too, Trump stated last month, "there is no longer a nuclear threat in N. Korea." I'm not setting the bar in any of this. He often sets the bar himself and then fails to live up to it.
     
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    Why the f--- do people call it pro-life? Are they for the lives of the germs they k--- by washing their hands with soap? Call them anti-abortion because 'pro-life' to anyone not familiar with the term is just vague as f---.
     
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    Tariffs imposed recently by the Trump administration on some of the country’s biggest trading partners are driving up the prices of lumber, steel, aluminum, and other building materials. That, in turn, could undermine the financial feasibility of major residential, commercial, and infrastructure developments here.

    The stakes are significant: On a major project, a few percentage points’ difference in the price of goods can amount to millions of dollars. In some cases, that could mean higher rents on apartments or more tax dollars spent on a new bridge.

    https://www.bostonglobe.com/busines...even-higher/MLWypAgM6RE9Ypk1GwXDnJ/story.html
     
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    It's not that fancy. Just plain, everyday English. (Oh sorry, I forgot you're apparently not a native speaker.)
    Not really, just politics per usual. I'd say he's in pretty good company given that every other politician in history has done the same thing. You're naive if you believe otherwise.
    That's just Trump virtue signaling. His actions have been mostly superficial gestures. He will always stop short of attacking abortion rights at the federal level.
    During a hearing on his nomination to the DC Circuit Court of Appeals, Kavanaugh declined to give his personal opinion on Roe v Wade, saying only that he would uphold the Supreme Court's current decision on the case.

    Watch the exchange below:



    Far from it. Even when I fundamentally agree with the legacy media on some issue, they're often flawed/remiss in their analysis in some way. The articles I posted are pretty spot-on though. I didn't "nitpick [sic]" them for partisan reasons, nor am I saying they represent all of the corporate media on this issue. I simply found them to be more rational and less alarmist/propagandistic than other views being propagated by the corporate media on the subject right now, mainly for "political expediency," as that WaPo piece summed it up:
    I could have told you that, but you won't listen to me. I suppose you won't listen to NBC or WaPo on this one either, since you appear to be averse to logic whenever it challenges your narrow, one-dimensional worldview. As a partisan stooge you much prefer the comfort of a lie.
    That's funny, I think the United States is taking the fore on the world stage much more than it was during the Obama admin, and we're doing it without waging proxy warfare and destroying other countries. Just the opposite, Trump goes in and solves a simmering conflict that's persisted for the better part of a century and you're so bitter and desperate that you're trying to spin this as a bad thing.
    Oh yes, more jobs, higher wages, lower taxes, unemployment ticks below 4% for the first time in over 15 years - wow, this admin is so terrible for American workers!
    And I debunked every single point. Even people who don't like Trump sided with my arguments because yours were so garbled. Then you stopped responding to my points entirely and squirmed back into your echo chamber.
    So in other words, anyone who disagree with you is either uneducated or racist? Seems legit. But thanks for making it clear that your enemy is indeed the white majority, proving that you are in fact the very thing you accuse me of being - a racist.
    You mean they sometimes get detained and deported for illegally entering the country? Why should the average American give a flying f--- about that again?
    Ridiculous. MS-13 wouldn't even be an issue if we had a functioning, merit-based immigration system and a border wall, so Trump is right to identify illegal immigration as the source of the problem. And yes, MS-13 is a problem, and a perfectly avoidable one at that. It's absurd that Americans are expected to put up with up to 10,000 violent criminals running around the country that aren't even f---ing citizens. You're acting as though feelings - feelings based on Donald Trump saying something that the media said should offend me - should dictate our immigration policy.
    The majority of Americans already do. Most people don't support open borders and blanket amnesty. Immigration is a losing issue for the Democrats. This is why you're going to get f---ing curb-stomped in the midterms.
    You're repeating yourself again. Don't even bother addressing my points about the tremendous economic pressure North Korea is under at the moment, China's unprecedented involvement, the CN quote I posted in re the summit, etc. Get back to me after you've thought it all through, champ.
     
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  8. Enigma
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    "every other politician in history" didn't run as an outsider that was going to "drain the swamp" in DC you geek. Isn't that the main defense/argument for trump? That he's not an establishment politician? You continuously claim how trump differs from the rest of Republicans but lying for political gain is right out of their playbook.

    Advocating to defund planned parenthood that provides not only safe abortion services but various medical services for low-income women across the country and preventing NGOs from educating the public/government about the importance of making safe abortion available are "superficial gestures?" You really have minimal female interaction, don't you?

    So, like I said, he said he would follow Roe v. Wade faithfully as a DC Circuit judge. He can't overrule Roe v. Wade as a circuit judge you Neanderthal, his hands were tied. He had no choice but to follow the Supreme Court's precedent. He literally praised chief justice Rehnquist for his dissent on Roe v. Wade:



    Sorry i'm not rest assured that an administration that has Mike Pence in it and various other pro-life advocates will diligently defend abortion rights for women across the country :S

    The U.S. is still heavily involved in the middle east, including Syria. Who are you kidding? Your boy even took it a step further than "proxy war" and bombed Syria twice. But yeah, sure, let's act like the U.S. isn't involved in overseas conflicts anymore.

    Wages have been stagnant my friend as they have been for years now. The private sector has been growing since long before Trump. Unemployment has also been falling since long before Trump. Nice job dodging my point though!

    Congrats, you got the approval from members of a forum that allow you and JMG to stick around despite your constant racist antics. :S yeah, you really got me there!

    no, that's just a literal fact. Most americans are white and non-college educated. They are the majority in this country.

    Because anyone that knows anything about undocumented immigrants or has actually had a f---ing conversation with them knows they aren't this evil entity that the president constantly tries to cast them as. Blaming a marginalized group of people as the root for major problems is like racism 101. That's not something any informed citizen should approve of.

    See, this is how I know you have no fucken idea what you're talking about. MS-13 originated in the United States during the 1980s. They were founded in Los Angeles. A majority of MS-13 members are U.S. citizens you f---ing dweeb. There are gangs active in the U.S. that are twice the size as MS-13. Like I continue to say, MS-13 represents a fraction of a fraction of crime that happens in this country. They are not a major issue for the president of the United States to be focusing on. He uses them to scare people. To make them fear undocumented immigrants. period.

    Republican fear mongering tactics work. That's one thing we can both agree on. Perfect example of this is Obamacare. During Obama's tenure, a majority of americans did not approve of it. Then when he left office and Trump along with congressional Republicans tried to repeal it, people realized oh s---... this actually benefits me. The approval rating for Obamacare went way up.

    The quote you posted was a bunch of goal post moving garbage. "The fact that we're even in negotiations right now is an amazing accomplishment!" Yeah, not when the president is bragging about N. Korea no longer being a nuclear threat. That makes it seem like everything is a done deal when in actuality, he can't even answer a basic f---ing question about the issue.
     
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    webber with another L. he's finally got someone who's bothering to debate 'substance' with him.... and he's losing. HUGELY!
     
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    You're barking up the wrong tree: I'm not a MAGA stooge. Don't expect me to defend him on every little point like you did for Obama. Trump differs from other politicians in some ways but by no means all. "Drain the swamp" is a campaign slogan.
    Yes. Trump hasn't put a dent in women's rights. You're hysterical.
    If you're going to borrow tired insults from other posters, you should take a good look in the mirror before using them. You've 100% never been in a relationship with a female. There's no doubt about that.
    And he is even less likely to do so as a SCOTUS justice for all the reasons I've given above which you've conveniently ignored. Kavanaugh's personal views on abortion are irrelevant from a legal standpoint, unless he were a rabid ideologue, which is clearly not the case.
    They don't have to. Abortion rights aren't going anywhere regardless.
    A relatively low-burning presence in the Middle East, though unfortunate, doesn't particularly worry me when the sitting president is evidently more interested in other, more practical affairs such as solving the Korean peninsula's longstanding crisis than with "liberating" Middle Eastern countries. You yourself (accurately) called the Syria strikes merely "symbolic." Hopefully Trump never goes full neocon like your boy and starts destroying other nations and making countless people's lives a living h---.
    Did you hear that from Nancy Pelosi? She's a geriatric moron, and you're a moron for not fact checking her claims. From your own Politifact:

    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...osi/have-wages-failed-go-donald-trumps-watch/
    Anything to avoid giving the man credit, amirite.
    I didn't dodge your point. You said Trump is hurting American workers. That is, on the whole, false.
    It's interesting that you mentioned race when no one was talking about race, almost as if you can't conceal your hatred for white people for too long before it bleeds into your moralistic diatribes.
    More moral haranguing, what a total shocker coming from you. You're also straw-manning my position, that illegal immigration in general - not any particular "marginalized" ethnic group, you racist - is a problem in this country. No one is demonizing brown people. That's just your own biased, hateful interpretation of Trump's words.
    Thanks for the fun fact, but it doesn't matter where they originated. Many MS-13 members are illegal aliens.

    https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katie...another-ms13-members-claiming-asylum-n2499412
    Of course it is when it's one of the many problems associated with illegal immigration.
    Most reasonable people don't fear ILLEGAL (I know you hate that word HA!) aliens, and most reasonable people aren't going to become fearful of illegal immigrants per se because of Trump's rhetoric. Most people want illegals deported because it's just common sense to do so, and most people want a border wall because it's just common sense to have one.
    No, most sane individuals understand that Obama f----- up the healthcare system beyond recognition.
    If you're going to analyze politics in a serious and mature manner, you have to be able to evaluate the situation from multiple angles, not dwell autistically on puerile talking points like, "TRUMP CAN'T EVEN ANSWER IN AGONIZING AND MINUTE DETAIL (SO WE CAN PICK IT APART IN A TOTALLY UNBIASED WAY) HOW HE PLANS TO ENSURE DENUCLEARIZATION, A PROCESS THAT HAS JUST BARELY BEGUN AND COULD TAKE SEVERAL YEARS!" You just sound like a bitter naysayer, and that's exactly what you are. If Obama had gotten this far with North Korea you would have been singing a very different tune.
     
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    Enigma needs all the affirmative action he can get I suppose. Keep hyping the little guy up!
     
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  12. lil uzi vert stan
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    TERRIBLE response
     
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    So from "drain the swamp" to "build the wall" to "lock her up," you're suggesting these were all lies in order to collect some votes? I think that's what you call a conman. Glad we could agree on something.

    Maybe not yet but it's not due to a lack of trying. He's already established new federal rules that cuts federal funding from women's health clinics that provide abortions. I don't think you understand the consequences of something like defunding planned parenthood and what it would do to the availability of women's reproductive health. Not to mention the cut in Medicare and Medicaid that Trump has continuously proposed (which he promised he wouldn't do during the campaign btw! Or was that just more political banter to win votes?).

    I've dated more women than you've talked to in your entire life. Stop it. You live a sad pathetic lonely life and you wish you could be me.

    Clearly not the case based on what? He's slated to be the second most conservative justice on the bench, just to the left of Thomas. He was a reliable conservative judge while in DC. Nothing about Kavanaugh is clear and we really won't know his full stance until his hearing. That's if he decides to answer directly and not beat around the bush when asked about Roe v. Wade. Nonetheless, people fearing for Roe v. Wade when the median justice is now John f---ing Roberts, is not irrational.

    I've addressed this. This isn't true. The trump administration has attempted time and time again to cut off abortion services.

    Trump has increased the number of U.S. troops in Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan since taking office. All the conflicts we were involved in when Obama left office, we're still involved in. You can't paint Obama as this war monger and Trump as this isolationist saint when nothing has really changed on that front. If anything, the trump administration has ramped up military action with their new rules of engagement which has also correlated with a rise in civilian casualty in the middle east.

    Go look up the definition of "stagnant." No where did I say wages haven't gone up. Wages slightly started to go up at the end of Obama's tenure but for the most part, they were stagnant during his presidency as well.

    You don't get credit for things you didn't cause.

    I said trump's trade war with china is hurting American workers. You can't read.

    Lmfao. I don't expect uneducated white people to care whether the president is demonizing undocumented latinos. I brought up race because a POC is more likely to have sympathy and speak out because they are in similar positions.

    Really now? If that's the case, why isn't trump or the right in general speaking out against undocumented Asian immigrants? Since 2000 undocumented immigrants from Asia have grown at a much faster rate than undocumented immigrants from Mexico/Central America. Yet all we hear is "southern border," "build a wall," "MS-13," "Cartels!" Net migration between mexico and the U.S. has hovered around 0 for a while now. But yeah sure, no one is demonizing brown people :S

    Ugh, this s--- is so tiring:

    A vast majority of undocumented immigrants are not g--- members. MS-13 is a g--- that consists of mostly U.S. citizens within the states. Again, he uses them to install fear. There's 10,000 MS-13 members max in the U.S. If 70% are U.S. citizens, we're talking 3,000 MS-13 members across the entire country that are undocumented. That's absolutely nothing. Their impact on U.S. crime rates are miniscule.

    except it's not. read above.

    This is just plain not true. Most staunch conservatives have built a resentment against undocumented immigrants. You see it all over social media and even in person at trump rallies. They have anxieties about violence and that they're taking jobs away from americans, whatever bs propaganda Trump feeds them.

    Again, i'm not setting the bar here genius. Your boy is the one who decided to brag about N. Korea no longer being a nuclear threat. He had months to prepare for this, are you telling me it's too much to ask of the president to be able to answer simple questions on a major issue? Like, when did the standard for the presidency and diplomacy stoop this low? When did we start shrugging off presidents not knowing answers to essential questions? Kim wouldn't have sat down with the Obama administration because their demands would have been too much. Hopefully Trump doesn't get duped like Kim is likely planning to do.
     
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    MS-13 went bye bye
     
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    This is the second time you've put words in my mouth and said "Glad we can agree on something." What major campaign promises did Obama make good on? Not a one. Trump on the other hand is following through on several.
    Now who's fearmongerong. None of this affects women's rights at all.
    Empty talk. You're such a boring carbon copy of other, slightly wittier but also boring posters. Imagine aspiring to be a poor man's Res.
    Based on the fact that he's never signaled that he's anything more than a little bit further than center-right. The media suggesting he's a hardliner's hardliner with a diabolical far-right agenda to k--- Roe vs. Wade is desperate conspiracy-mongering to get liberals fired up for the midterms. It has no basis in reality.
    These policies have sadly become an accepted norm in U.S. foreign policy. Trump should make it a point to tamp down on them, but instead he's sort of put them on the back burner to focus on other issues. He's still backing off on many endeavors though which separates him from Obama, the big hallmark of whose leadership is Libya, with Egypt being a close second. So far Trump hasn't destroyed any countries.
    They haven't been stagnant. Again you distort reality in order to credit only previous administrations and never the current one. Pathetic. Dishonest. This is why no one takes your posts seriously. Earnings have continued to increase under Trump.
    It's just a coincidence, I suppose, that unemployment reached a 15 year low since Trump took office. Lucky him Bush and Obama were such great money presidents. Trump had nothing to do with it because he's just a one-dimensional villain who can't do anything right. You couldn't be more partisan lmao.
    No, no it's not, not in any material way that's worth bringing up unless you're a dedicated anti-Trumper who's running low on talking points.
    There you go again with that smug, self-righteous elitist attitude that anyone who disagrees with you is either an uneducated hick, a racist or both.
    Maybe because this country is in desperate need of a southern border wall? It's a no-brainer. Even you should want the wall if you really care about parents getting separated from their children.
    And you expect Americans to just go, "Oh well, it's only 3,000. Maybe we don't need a border wall or a crackdown on illegal immigration after all because we wouldn't offend anyone, now would we?" f--- off.
    Americans have been concerned with illegal immigration since long before Trump came into the scene.
    "How will the U.S. verify denuclearization?" is the wrong question when we haven't even reached that step yet. Denuclearization is largely contingent on China's cooperation in all this. This is a delicate operation that's going to take time.
     
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    Whataboutism. Several of his major campaign promises he's failed to deliver on, which include the border wall and especially about mexico paying for it. This wasn't some side note promise either. He literally based his entire campaign off this idea & how easy it was going to be. Not to mention "lock her up" and "drain the swamp." The guy literally filled his entire cabinet with rich elites, the total opposite of "draining the swamp." Obama on the other hand, made good on numerous of his campaign promises.

    Cutting federal funding from women's health clinics does not affect women's rights? You really aren't smart.

    You've continuously posted within the same online community that hates you for years. I'm not copying anyone lol you're just a pathetic waste of a life. This forum is the closest thing you'll ever have to a family and that's just the harsh reality of it all lol.

    Kavanaugh is not center-right lmao. Not even Kennedy was center-right lol. Kavanaugh is staunchly conservative and his case rulings show that.

    Backing off on many endeavors, such as...? I find it humorous that you think Obama destroyed Syria and Libya as if the Arab Spring was his doing. Tunisia is really the only country that's greatly benefitted from the Arab Spring. The rest of the countries that followed through fell into years long civil wars or received regime changes that fell short of what was expected. Nonetheless, the main point here is that Trump has done very little to change the U.S.'s course of action in the middle east.

    You still don't know what stagnant means :'( it literally means "sluggish." Wages can rise but rise "sluggishly." That's been the case with wage growth in the U.S. for years.

    I wouldn't call it a coincidence. More like a continuation of a trend that's been happening since Obama got the country out of the Great Recession. Unemployment was already at like 5% when Trump took office. Wtf credit do you want him to get for inheriting a healthy economy?

    Yes... yes it is. I bring you the post of my much more intelligent friend Papa Andy:

    Nice strawman. This response is so far off from my original point but that's typical of you. At this point I can't tell if you do it purposely or due to one of the various mental illnesses you probably have.

    Again, another strawman. You're just getting lazy now. When did this turn into a discussion about the needs of a southern border wall? I asked you about Asian undocumented immigrants.

    I expect Americans to realize that a $25 billion dollar f---ing border wall isn't worth it if we're talking about 3,000 undocumented MS-13 members. For two main reasons: a) you could deport all 3,000 of them & build the wall and U.S. crime rates wouldn't change at all. Not even a little bit. b) half of undocumented immigrants come here via travel visas and simply don't go back. In other words, a wall isn't going to stop a f---ing plane.

    Not even illegal immigration, immigration in general. The right has consistently painted new minority groups in the U.S. as bad people. The Irish, Italians, Chinese, Japanese etc. It's happened throughout history.

    We aren't?! but the president said N. Korea is no longer a nuclear threat!! There should be some type of blue print they are following. U.S. officials aren't going to go into intense negotiations with N. Korea blind, not knowing how they'll be able to verify denuclearization. That's a basic question that any president in his position should be able to answer diligently. Not some non-response about trusting a dictator, wtf.
     
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  17. Webber
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    The wall wasn't an empty promise. He's working on it. And Mexico doesn't have to pay for it.

    Being a "rich elite" himself, Trump's cabinet picks came as no surprise to me.

    I don't think anyone really expected that Hillary Clinton would go to jail. Everyone knows she's above the law. "Lock her up" was just a campaign slogan to get the crowd energized. Most of his supporters understood this.
    You've already admitted that Trump, despite his halfhearted efforts, hasn't made a dent in women's right to choose. But for some reason you're still worried. I'm not. And hey, if it's any consolation, I'm usually right about things and you aren't, so there's that for you.
    That's why you've been sparring with me for the better part of the day.
    I said he was a little more than center-right. You must be getting tired now.
    Attacking Iran? Outing Assad? Invading North Korea? Starting a nuclear war with Russia? You know, all of the things Hillary Clinton would probably be doing right now if she were president.
    It was. Everyone knows it was. Also Hillary Clinton's. Only a blind follower would try to defend them on this.
    stagnant
    adjective

    Definition of stagnant for English Language Learners

    ...

    not active, changing, or progressing: a stagnant economy

    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/stagnant
    Unemployment has been fluctuating for decades but only rarely does it ever crest under 4%. This happened in part due to Trump's job numbers and in part due to consumer confidence. It had nothing to do with Obama because if it had, it would have happened under Obama, not under Trump coincident with his impressive March job numbers. Trump inherited a mediocre economy which he literally breathed new life into.
    Beta's copypasta is neither compelling nor substantive.
    You brought up race because you are racist. You hate white people.
    That's also a problem.
    A border wall is worth it for a variety of reasons, the most cogent ones being a. multiculturalism doesn't work (just look at Europe) and b. our current immigration system is illegitimate and has been since 1965.
    This is false on so many levels. Every race or ethnic group has been demonized at some point in history, both by people on the left and on the right, but the idea that the right is one-dimensionally racist towards minorities is a crass generalization and a boring stereotype. Identitarians, for example, are portrayed in the lamestream media as far-right extremists who hate anyone who's not white, but generally speaking that's just not true.
    It's an obtuse question. Verifying actual denuclearization will be a fairly straightforward process, but that's not likely to happen for some time to come.
     
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  18. Enigma
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    Enigma Civil liberties > Police safety

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    He's working on it? It's the second year of his presidency and he's totally cooled off on even mentioning it. He's tried to pass off border fencing that's existed since the Bush administration as his wall :'(. I don't care if they came as a surprise to you. The point is he hired a bunch of people that perfectly resemble what he calls the "the swamp" to be in his cabinet. It's hypocritical and dishonest. You don't think? Again, I don't give a s--- what you THINK. I care about what Trump said and what's actually happening.

    Yes, I'm worried that an administration that has actively tried to restrict access to abortion services will eventually succeed. They've already succeeded in some capacities as I've listed out for you in previous posts.

    I've been grading tests all day...you know, work. Things adults are suppose to do. I have taken breaks to embarrass you on here, you're right.

    Still not accurate.

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    Literally took me less than 30 seconds.....

    Lmfao... what an abomination of a response this is. The unemployment rate has been on a steady decline since 2010 when the recession ended. Trump's job numbers in 2017 were largely the same as Obama's job numbers in 2016. If you think presidents can just waltz in and make instant impacts on the economy without some catastrophic event happening or huge legislation being passed, you're stupid. Jeb Bush could have won the election and the unemployment rate would have eventually fell to 3.9%. When Trump took office, it was already at 4.8%. He inherited an economy that was on record-breaking private sector job growth. You're a tool.

    Once again..... not what I asked you but you know that already. You keep trying to pivot and it's not working.


    Another strawman.... why am I not surprised... we were discussing MS-13 and how you claimed it was necessary to have the wall to protect Americans from 3000 undocumented MS-13 members. You also failed to address how deporting these 3000 individuals would do absolutely nothing to U.S. crime rates.


    This will be my last response to you seeing as you're not even trying anymore. Have a great night sleeping alone in your basement.
     
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  19. Zebedee
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    @Enigma is a dirty f---ing racist who hates white people
     
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  20. lil uzi vert stan
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    Jul 13, 2018
    ^space monkey is a dirty “f’n” racist who hates all of us, including himself. Friendless, dickless loser who’s never held a woman’s hand
     
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