Jan 30, 2017

According to Nabil Othman, the UNHCR regional representative to the Gulf region, there were 500,000 Syrian refugees in Saudi Arabia at the time of his statement. The government itself of Saudi Arabia has stated that it has, over the past five years since the start of the conflict hosted 2.5 million refugees.


so Here is UN Refugees agency representative said 500K ...... but anyway there is no way to know the actual number because Saudi Arabia doesn't have refugees policy.

 

Jan 30, 2017

You know every single searcher agrees with me, and not with you, right? So stop talking like i'm some kind of weird complotist paranoiac that tries to demonstrate something completely crazy dumb.

You're not even answering to my post. I said that thinking every manifestation of islam is contributing to terrorism is a very irrational fear of Islam, and I don't see how you can deny that. But i do see you don't deny it and rather try to dodge it and talk about your positions on veiled women, wich is obviously not the topic.

Of course legitimate criticism of Islam/Islamism aren't Islamophobic, to the contrary, they're vital, it's very important to always criticize everything, and especially religions. Some criticisms of Islam here, in Europe, I don't expect you in Jamaica to know this very good but you could try to believe me, are very clearly disproportionnate. For example, when every conservative ever talks about a mass r--- that happened in Koln that wasn't really anything close to a mass r---. Or when pseudo leftists fight against the right to wear a fkn burkini at the beach. Or when hard right wing politicians talk about islamisation of Europe, when the amount of muslims in europe is ridiculously low.

 

Jan 30, 2017

Right, well thats good if they are taking them in! They should take almost all of them. 500k is a big difference compared to 2.5 million. I will happily admit when I'm wrong, I don't have a very good view of the Saudi's but they are America's ally.

I don't even know what you are trying to talk to me about anymore.

Yes, I think Islam factors into Islamic terrorism, among many other factors. What is your point? You brought up veiled women, I gave my opinion on it.

I don't live in Jamaica.

 

Jan 30, 2017

^^^Islamophobia, avoiding rationality, reason and logic, purposefully ignoring points I made, to be able to dissmiss islamophobia and think your fear of Islam is "legitimate criticism"

 

Jan 30, 2017

not sure if you guys realise, but the only reason trump was allowed to ban those 7 countries in the first place is because the obama administration passed a law for it. Not only that, but the 7 countries banned were on Obama's "danger" list of countries that could be seen as a threat.

 

Jan 30, 2017

I just don't see the point in banning all immigration from those countries though because tbh I'm more afraid of the quiet kid in the back of my class who never talks to anyone and acts sketchy as f---.

 

Jan 30, 2017

it probably only benefits like trump and a handful of small companies that have to deal with less immigrants. i don't see any benefits to it, but i don't think its some kind of racist travesty. its not like he targeted Muslims only like the media are trying to push, only like 30% of the total population of all 7 countries is muslim.

 

Jan 30, 2017

There is no way its only 30% Those are all majority muslim countries .Sadly that's probably the case though because I read a article yesterday saying how the top 10 richest people in America all made over 950 million in Trumps first week as president.

 

Jan 30, 2017

What? The Obama administration and congress came up with the list of those seven countries so they were labeled as "dangerous to visit." They did this so individuals coming from those specific countries would be additionally vetted. There intention was never to implement a travel ban.

 

Jan 30, 2017

they were marked as "countries of concern" that could pose a risk to people travelling to, or people seeking refuge from as they have ties to being "safe havens for terrorist organizations"

well there's like 50 majority muslim countries. If trump was targeting muslims, 7 out of 50 is a low number. he only took advantage of Obama's policies and pushed them further.

10 people making 950 million in less than a month? sounds pretty far-fetched to me tbh, though they are rich as f--- they could have just invested and made those figures i guess, but it's nearly 10 billion $ in total...

 

Jan 30, 2017

It was a combined 16 billion in profits by those 10 people.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/noahkir...illion-during-trumps-first-week/#7edb3ae570ec

 

Jan 30, 2017

wow those 1% are f-----. but yeah investing in stocks with billions already, means you can make more billions fairly easy, so i guess i shouldn't really be surprised.

 

Jan 30, 2017

The rich will get richer while the poor gets poorer..... It's the sad truth

 

Jan 30, 2017

i don't want to sound like a fa---- but 1 billion dollars is too much i dunno if i'd be able to handle that. like i feel like those numbers would start to take over your life. like i'd seriously be checking my bank everyday if i had that much money.

 

Jan 30, 2017

I would buy a f--- load of prostitutes and buy a f--- load of cocaine if I had that kind of money hahaha. I wouldn't even care if someone stole money from me because I wouldn't know what to do with it all

 

Jan 30, 2017

exact same for me. like i'd have to go out of my way and find something expensive as f---, i wouldn't know where to begin lol. like a ferarri or nice care obviously, but there's still a f--- ton of money. even a 10 year cocaine addiction would barely dent a billion.

 

Jan 30, 2017

Yeah, I realize that but their intent was never to ban immigration from these countries. This law didn't give Trump the authority to ban immigration from those countries either.

 

Jan 30, 2017

For real! Over Steven Tyler's career he has snorted over 6 million dollars worth of cocaine

 

Jan 30, 2017

how do you know their intent? did you speak to them?
and what do you mean? the VWP/terrorist prevention act of 2015, implemented by obama's administration LITERALLY gives Trump the authority to ban those 7 countries??

https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/158/text
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/158

 

Jan 30, 2017

Well there's the fact that Obama put out this statement today, condemning Trump's actions. Also, it has been explained numerous times that the purpose of the list was to look out for high risk individuals:



You said it yourself. No where did the Obama administration insinuate or push for a complete ban on immigration from those countries.

As for the terrorist prevention act: that has to do with DHS (Department of Homeland Security) doing annual evaluations of the various visa/vetting programs we have. No where does it explicitly give the president authority to ban immigration on several countries due to religion or nationality. In fact: it's being argued that it's illegal due to The Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965. Quote from NYT:

Nonetheless, Mr. Trump asserts that he still has the power to discriminate, pointing to a 1952 law that allows the president the ability to “suspend the entry” of “any class of aliens” that he finds are detrimental to the interest of the United States.

But the president ignores the fact that Congress then restricted this power in 1965, stating plainly that no person could be “discriminated against in the issuance of an immigrant visa because of the person’s race, sex, nationality, place of birth or place of residence.” The only exceptions are those provided for by Congress (such as the preference for Cuban asylum seekers).
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