Politics The Official Donald Trump Administration Thread

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  1. Alchemist34
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    Alchemist34 DO MY HEAD

    May 19, 2017
    This is the U.S can't they bribe a judge or k--- some witness to swipe this under the rug
     
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  2. WPG
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    WPG sxn80 Rory Gilmore

    May 19, 2017
    the special counsel investigation could very plausibly lead to impeachment
     
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  3. python
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    python in the nighttime

    May 19, 2017
    Eh, I think Trump is guilty of impeachable offenses without a shadow of a doubt, but I just don't see Republicans as willing to go through with an impeachment. Unless Trump does something to majorly upset their party, I see their loyalty and protection as a major asset to him.

    With that being said though, I should probably be more open to anything happening these next couple months/years, so I'll be prepared for President Paul Ryan just in case.
     
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  4. WPG
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    WPG sxn80 Rory Gilmore

    May 19, 2017
    i think it's much easier than you're imagining for congressional republicans to get to the point where they see turning on trump (and therefore looking honest, tough, and patriotic) in favor of pence (who's their guy anyway). loyalty to trump could sink them in the midterms.
     
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  5. Charlie Work
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    Charlie Work Level 5 Goblin

    May 19, 2017
    Trump's base still doesn't care about any of the Russia stuff. I don't see him losing support from other republicans simply because they haven't left his side yet and he's done dumb s--- every step of the way. Unless the probe(s) turn up some unmistakably damning stuff about him that resonates with the public who still backs him, he's staying where he is.

    I personally think Trump is too stupid and incompetent to have done anything to win the election. He's just also too stupid to do/say the right things so he doesn't look guilty. Best case scenario they nab somebody who was involved in his campaign.

    What do you think about the idea that Pence would be worse than Trump? The usual argument is that he'd be composed enough to actually get his agenda done, and with the Trump experience in his rear view he wouldn't likely face much opposition. The same people are usually the ones who underplay Trump as somebody just failing at the usual conservative agenda who's only rattling everyone's cages because he's making a mockery of the institution. I mean, say what you will about his general behavior or intelligence, but somebody like Pence would have gotten the travel ban passed simply because he wouldn't have been dumb enough to openly refer to it as a muslim ban beforehand despite the exact same sentiments backing it.
     
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  6. Xmipod
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    May 19, 2017
    What has he done?
     
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  7. WPG
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    WPG sxn80 Rory Gilmore

    May 19, 2017
    let's stop right here, though: his approval rating has already dipped below 40, and a year of investigations could have it around 30 by the spring of 2018. maybe lower. trump's base might not be enough to keep your seat.
     
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  8. Charlie Work
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    Charlie Work Level 5 Goblin

    May 19, 2017
    Trump might not be as palatable or agreeable as his counterparts, but he kicked their a--- in the primary. Regardless of approval ratings, he's still the reason they have the presidency and their best shot at retaining it, while enacting more conservative policy than either McCain or Romney ran on. It could definitely change, but short of something absolutely earth shattering (more so than sexual assault or insulting war heroes) I don't see it. He's already Tweeted openly about targeting people in his party during their reelections if they go against him, even openly trying to intimidate the Freedom Caucus. I honestly don't see them winning a battle with him. Living in Cali probably gives you a warped view of how places that voted for him are feeling right now.
     
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  9. Enigma
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    Enigma Civil liberties > Police safety

    May 19, 2017
    I don't think he did anything per say but i think he was aware of what his campaign officials were doing. He just kind of turned a blind eye to it which is still an impeachable offense.
     
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  10. Charlie Work
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    Charlie Work Level 5 Goblin

    May 19, 2017
    Did what? Nothing damning in that fashion has been disclosed. The strongest grounds for impeachment atm are obstruction of justice given the Comey memos, but I've also heard that it's hard to argue that when there wasn't an ongoing trial to obstruct. Not a lawyer though.
     
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  11. reservoirGod
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    reservoirGod reckless adventurer.

    May 19, 2017
    It's going to come out that Jared Kushner colluded with the Russians during the campaign... Then Jared will dish a ton of dirt on Trump for f---ing his wife and because he is a rat.
     
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  12. Enigma
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    Enigma Civil liberties > Police safety

    May 19, 2017
    That comment was under the assumption that the trump campaign did coordinate with the Russians. There's no evidence for it yet but at this point, I feel like it's only about time.
     
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  13. WPG
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    WPG sxn80 Rory Gilmore

    May 20, 2017
    don't be condescending. i'm not an idiot.

    your miscalculation here is that his huge swell of support and the leverage he had when threatening to primary people has been hugely undercut by his presidency so far. if his approval rating is plummeting like this now, imagine how it will look by next november.
     
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  14. Charlie Work
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    Charlie Work Level 5 Goblin

    May 20, 2017
    I'm not being condescending. I'm telling you that you're misinterpreting his approval rating, and there's no evidence of anybody in his party having the balls to denounce him because he would win. Hitting sub 40% isn't exactly crazy considering he entered office with the lowest approval rating of any president, and Obama's approval rating was historically lower than average as well. If 50% of the country are conservative, and they elected Trump, how many do think are going to leave his side for anything short of something beyond incredible? It's naivety and blind optimism.
     
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  15. Enigma
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    Enigma Civil liberties > Police safety

    May 20, 2017
    It's far from blind optimism though. Republican representative are avoiding townhall meetings because they're scared to face their constituents. Representatives are literally being boo'd off stage. Special elections are already showing a shift left with democrats being competitive in districts that are typically strong red.
     
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  16. WPG
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    WPG sxn80 Rory Gilmore

    May 20, 2017
    right....................................in 2010, obama was not very popular, and the republicans won a landslide of historic proportion. trump figures to be much, much more unpopular than 2010 obama by next fall. what's hard for you to grasp here?
     
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  17. Charlie Work
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    Charlie Work Level 5 Goblin

    May 22, 2017
    "World peace" is something dumb that people running for Miss America say, but Trump actually believes not only that he can achieve that in the middle east, but that it's going to be a breeze. What a guy.

    Because we're talking about impeachment, not a shift in power between parties. The latter is almost certain with the midterms. The chances of the first are still being vastly overstated. You'd need 2/3rds of the senate to do that, and the midterms sure as h--- won't swing that much.
     
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    May 22, 2017
    Didn't those same "special elections" show that Hillary had a 90+% chance of winning the election?
     
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  19. Enigma
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    Enigma Civil liberties > Police safety

    May 22, 2017
    Uhhhh I don't think you know what special elections are. There are democratic candidates being competitive in states like Kansas and Georgia. That'd be the equivalent to a republican candidate being competitive in states like California and Oregon where they usually get blown out in.
     
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  20. Xmipod
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    May 22, 2017
    I know what they are, and I also know that most people don't care about them, just like the polls that showed that trump would lose in a landslide
     
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