Eminem The Official Thoughts on Modern Eminem Thread

Started by Young Sinatra, Feb 20, 2015, in Eminem Add to Reading List

  1. Zep
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    the 3 dots iz reel
     
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    sometimes an ellipsis is all I got
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    I love his flow and his speed. Though in some verse, it's fast paced and forced but still good to me.
    And I think complex.lyrics according.to you is metaphor?
     
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    theres no verses in shadyxv but i think i know what you mean and a metaphor for what ? his lyrics on mmlp2/shadyxv are very complex not a metaphor for anything
     
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    He f---ing blows now.

    Anything post Recovery is literally unlistenable

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    I understand and appreciate the complexity of his rhyme schemes these days but what happened to the musicality? Even during his 'drug years' and subsequent Relapse years, there were plenty of songs he put out that you could nod your head to. Besides for a few exceptions, pretty much everything since 2010 has just sounded scattered and random, especially on Shady XV. Not to mention, its one thing impressing with multis and intricate rhyme schemes (Tech N9ne, Busta Rhymes, Kendrick, etc.) but there's no SUBSTANCE. i have no idea what the f--- he's even talking about anymore. I read a review somewhere that claimed that Em now sounds like a genius gone mad, just rambling to himself about whatever comes to mind and I fully agree. I think he's forgotten the most important part of the art - the music. The guy is a musician after all, all rappers are. And that requires some kind of substance and rhythm that he's just absolutely lost. We all know he can rap, thats been evident for 15-odd years. As a fan, it just feels as if he's devolved - he needs to take a step back and just focus on making SONGS.
     
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    He ain't Lil Wayne metaphor in lyrics.
    I appreciate modern Eminem lyrics and rhyme scheme but imo he sometimes confused me with his lyrics. I mean he's still good but I'd prefer complex lyrics in a song with stable structure.
    And he uses choppy flow a lot.
     
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    You mean he too much focus on the beats, the rhymes and almost ignored the concept of his songs?
     
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    the main problem as I see it is that he has no f---ing clue what made his older music good.
    he tries to recapture it a piece at a time and doesn't realize that when he sacrifices one aspect of his art to showcase another the work is just bad.

    the old Eminem was funny, dark, introspective, had complicated rhyme schemes, flowed effortlessly over just about any production, could tell a great story, was a good writer, managed to be unique, and was usually only corny in an amusing way. modern Eminem can rarely manage two of those things at a time. the old Eminem never sacrificed content for technique or technique for content. modern Eminem can't seem to stop doing that- and too often his technique is not that great when that's what he's showcasing, and his content is bland and generic even when that is what he's going for.

    it seems really hard for people to admit that there isn't some magical formula for him, because he's just not a very good rapper any more. it isn't just that he lost things to talk about (he used to be able to make great songs that weren't about much of anything in particular) and it isn't that he is over the wrong production, and it isn't that he's experimenting with new styles. he is trying really hard to capture what it was that made him good in the past, and he's just not capable of it anymore. he's old, he's washed up, and he's going to be an average artist for the remainder of his career.
     
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    Modern Em has made a couple of songs that would make it into my top 10 so he's not doing that badly. It's just the quality of the other work that comes with it drags my view of his new music down overall.
     
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    Amount of pages is a dumb way tho

    J cole section have more posts than eminem section
     
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    thats bot with his bs threads
     
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    the main problem as I see it is that critics have no f---ing clue what makes his newer music as good as or better than his older music.
    he has recaptured it a piece at a time and people think that he sacrifices one aspect of his art to showcase another and that the work is just bad.

    the new Eminem is funny, dark, introspective, has complicated rhyme schemes, flows effortlessly over just about any production, can tell a great story, is a good writer, manages to be unique, and is usually only corny in an amusing way. old Eminem could rarely manage two of those things at a time. the new Eminem never sacrifices content for technique or technique for content. old Eminem couldn't seem to stop doing that- and too often his technique was not that great when that's what he was showcasing, and his content was bland and generic even when that was what he was going for.

    it seems it's really hard for people to admit that there isn't some magical formula for him, because he's still a very good rapper. it isn't that he lost things to talk about (he is still able to make great songs that aren't about much of anything in particular) and it isn't that he is over the wrong production, and it isn't that he's experimenting with new styles. he is trying really hard to capture what it was that made him good in the past, and he's more than capable of it. he's resuscitated, he's rejuved, and he's going to be on an incline lyrically for the remainder of his career.
     
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    This x1000000000
     
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    What if Yelawolf started working with Luis Resto hahaha thad be tight Yela jacks all Ems old studio buddies
     
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    He would still be bad
     
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    2 technical KAppa
     
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    I don't think Eminem really has to understand what makes his older music good. That was a different era and a different part of his life. He needs to understand what makes SOME of his newer music good. He needs to look at Deja Vu and try to understand why that song is one of the best of his career, if not the very best. He needs to understand why Seduction works better than his other braggadocio raps. He needs to understand why Bad Guy is d--- near close to being as good as Stan. It's about creativity. Subject matter is easy to come by. It's using that subject matter in creative ways that matter the most.
     
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