Sep 27, 2018 Good article. Eminem was stuck in an endless attempt to repeat and make the more complicated scheme of the 2013 single - Rap God.
Sep 27, 2018 Slim Shady died in 2005. Eminem died in 2012. Marshall Mathers died in 2018. Rap God was born in 2013. Kamikaze was born in 2018.
Sep 27, 2018 Pitchfork is whiter than a country concert in the south. Lord Jamar is an no name who’s made YouTube videos for years trying to get Eminem’s attention. In no way are his opinions on Eminem standard or the norm. People don’t like Eminem’s music because he makes bad music.
Sep 27, 2018 A song about his mom which contrasts his Entire career up to that point. A song which acts a sequel to an all time classic. And a song which serves as a self parody portraying em as Corny, Old, Angry , anti-social trash. Basically everything. Whether or not you think those are terrible songs are against the point. The point is they contain alot more sunstance than the f---ing average rapper rapping about drugs and b------s. whether or not you find it palatable.
Sep 27, 2018 Pitchfork gave mmlp2 (or shadyXV, i forgot) a bad review EXCLUSIVELY, because they didn't like the attitudes he had to women. They weren't complaining about the sound, but about the content. So pitchfork being white doesn't mean there can't be some form of inter-sectional sj politics at play against Em. Also bear in mind that when you say "people" you don't encompass as much people as you think, which is why so much people still listen to the new s--- eminem drops. It's just that his style is a lot less mainstream. It doesn't get radio play or "bump in the whip".
Sep 27, 2018 Pitchfork is a very liberal site, number one. Two, white liberals are especially prone to racial guilt complex and identity politics more generally. Pitchfork is no exception. From their totally objective and apolitical review of Kamikaze: ...a rich and famous and not coincidentally white, straight man in 2018, asserting that he’s about to “r--- the alphabet.” And from their Fall review: But it’s still a contemporary Eminem song, meaning it’s full of chillingly bad lines, none more reckless than his homophobic dart aimed at Tyler, The Creator… (Funny aside - the windbag author edited out slur for dart within the last hour. Why is he polishing a 3 week old article no one's reading anymore about a song no one's talking about anymore?) Fall is not a bad song by any stretch of the mind. Obviously they slashed it because of the homophobic line, and a fortiori because it came from a “white, straight man.”
Sep 27, 2018 Eminem is a Democrat who has literally gone on record to s--- on two Republican presidents. He he literally said he rather George Bush die & told all his trump supporting fans to f--- off. I’m not here to defend pitchfork’s writing but to suggest the probably dozens of writers they have on their payroll are all scheming towards this liberal agenda is one h--- of a conspiracy theory. You probably saw the word “misogynist” once in their review & immediately jumped to this conclusion. Again, Eminem is a liberal lol. Your argument is that pitchfork is engaging in this leftist conspiracy against someone on the same side of the political spectrum lol. Kanye loves trump & pitchfork have rated all his albums highly. Contextualizing a review is not being bias lol. Eminem is indeed white, rich, famous & straight... these are facts. Music reviews aren’t done in a vacuum. Writers take into account real world events/circumstances/feelings etc. when reviewing pieces of music because society will always have an impact on artists & their music. Calling someone a fa---- in 2018 doesn’t have the same creative edge as it did in 1999. That’s why artists like Hopsin are just bland & boring. @WPG has elaborated on this before.
Sep 27, 2018 This is all true, and that's coming from someone who really likes Kamikaze. Kamikaze is a really good album to me, and I'm actually HAPPY for Eminem. However... The way I see it... is if Kamikaze followed TES, people would think Eminem was still a good rapper, but falling off/losing his touch a bit. And people have to remember that's not what happened. Eminem has given us garbage music for about 16 years up until Kamikaze. That's why I don't really argue for Eminem, he kinda did this to himself over the last decade or so. But, I still enjoy Kamikaze, and it was one of my all-time favorite first listening experiences to a project. But to a lot of people, Eminem has a lot to do to reverse his legacy. For someone like me? Kamikaze is a great addition to his catalog, and he desperately needed it. But, I worry about what's coming next, because now he has expectations again. I'd love for him to reach a second "prime" where he releases another 2-3 albums that cement his legacy. I just don't know if he's capable of it without being angry. The disses are great for now, but music-wise, it'll get boring if he continues to lash out. And honestly, I don't know how long Kamikaze's replay value will last, but for now, I really do like it. But, I'm not kidding myself either. I don't consider Kamikaze a top 5 album of the year.
Sep 27, 2018 That is not true. I've been listening to 09 - 18 Eminem a lot more than 99 - 04 Eminem. I have yet to see a rapper come close to his level, even when he's not in his so called prime.
Sep 27, 2018 My f---ing god you guys sure loved eminem lmao i mean the guy is one of the most popular of course hes gonna have people obsessing with him just like xxxtentacion michael jackson or guys like athletes and political figures, the point is you can’t hate on a musical artist because he has twisted fan’s lol im sure you guys also was stan of someone or an professional team, yes eminem had music that were bad but drake had some too kanye had some too yall just have to relax with this s--- cuz the old man’s still solds albums like crazy for 20 f---ing years so chill out lmao
Sep 27, 2018 Eminem is a rapper. He raps. He raps good. Matter of fact, he raps a lot better than he's given credit for, no matter what credit he's been given. Who says Eminem's relationships songs are fake and insincere? He certainly draws some inspiration from real life events, mixed with a little poetic freedom. What makes song about fake fuckboy f---ing b------s any better than a fake relationship song better anyway? And why is a fake relationship song automatically bad? Are you aware love songs have been a thing since people first started singing and writing songs, and they never had to be real life experience? Every artist does it. The point is to make it interesting, and he's done it more times than not. Space Bound is a bad song because it may not have been about a real person? Man, please. What about rappers rapping about slanging drugs when they never actually have? What about rappers saying they'd rather die than go to jail, then proceed to go to jail and do not, in fact, die? Eminem has done nothing to strip away his credibility. He's been rapping his a--- off since 09, and he perfected a style he hasn't done early in his career (wordplay, double - triple entendras). Though I do think the only wrong step is MMLP2, which was forced entirely. I wish he continued his Relapse style and perfected that instead, but Recovery is a great album. I've counted 10 amazing songs on Revival that I listen to often. 10 songs. That's an album. I have yet to see any other rapper come close to Eminem's level of combining everything rap can be in one person.
Sep 27, 2018 100% agree with everything my dude. Eminem is dealing with revisionist history bots. It’s amazing how they are trying to force him out of his legacy
Sep 28, 2018 You used the word conspiracy, not me. Eminem's ostensible political leanings don't exempt him from the hyper-scrutiny he will inevitably receive as a white straight male, never mind a white megastar in hip hop that appeals specifically to the demographic majority, raising the liberal specter of white pride/cohesion. The criticism (or rather fixation) of his use of the word fa----, while couched in neutral language, can only be understood as political in the current climate of political correctness gone insane. As a black man, Kanye is simply not going to be held to the same moral standards. Also, his coming out in support for Trump isn't being taken seriously because he obviously did it for opportunistic reasons (while Eminem took the opposite strategy for the same reasons).
Sep 28, 2018 Holy word salad. Put your thersarus away. You didn’t need to use the word conspiracy, that’s effectively what your argument is. What “hyper scrutiny” are you even referring to? You quoted like 3 sentences from two whole reviews. You act like Pitchfork hasn’t praised the work of other white hip-hop artists. Mac Miller’s last several projects were all within the 7s. Action Bronson has recieved multiple ratings in the 7s & 8s. So when you say, “hyper-scrutiny he will inevitably receive as a white straight male” there’s nothing to support that. Also lmao @ “liberal specter of white pride.” Dude, we’re talking about the rap artist who told all his trump supporting fans to f--- off. Who made the lead single of his album a song about police brutality — specifically abuses against African-Americans. Shouldn’t have Pitchfork loved Revival by your very theory? An album unapologetically bashing the president while refraining from using homophobic slurs? What happened there? Could it just be that they think his music is.....bad *gasp* Please elaborate on this lol
Sep 28, 2018 Lol. He thinks Eminem himself s----s on his recent music. ANd he thinks poeple hate everything he has done since he came back from hiatus but the guy is probably lives in outer space. I mean Em only s----s on Relapse because he wasn't even aware how heavy he used those accents in the album. Other than that, he kinda loves every album of his and for the fans. There are albums for everyone. Relapse considered a cult classic by half of Em fans, Recovery is considered great by almost any fan at this point. Even though fans feel like MMLP2 didn't live up to the hype I guess all of the critics and magazines rating it like the best post hiatus album, giving hit high reviews. Kamikaze is considered to be great if not classic by fans and only album yet to get praised is Revival. And I believe it will age better than we expect it to be. We're gonna see. Anyway, the guy is so harsh and ignorant with the stuff. Saying that Not Afraid and Recovery road didn't pleased any fans or anybody ?? Wait, I'm thkin' this guy can be BUdden. LOL. It's like when he says Eminem doesn't have a content EDIT: And he says he doesn't give a s--- about Kamikaze and yet he spent a lot of time writing that bs. I really believe some of those so called Eminem fans are mentally challanged. Who calls himself a fan of an artist that they didn't like at all. The guy calls every post hiatus Em album trash and bad, then says he writes it as an Eminem fan. It's funny how stupid can be people be, I wouldn't mind if those people dies at all..
Sep 28, 2018 Which words made you think I used a thesaurus? Did you go to high school? Apparently not, since you couldn’t even get the spelling of thesaurus right. The hyper-scrutiny I am referring to is the same one that Eminem alluded to on Kamikaze (ain't no mistakes allowed). Eminem's music will always be held to higher standards than his peers for the reasons I gave above. If Lil Wayne presented "the idea of someone having a d-ck in their mouth as the ultimate insult" on his album, he wouldn’t be critically penalized for it, or at least not nearly as harshly. Eminem’s tirades against Trump and police brutality were low-hanging fruit. It’s naive to think that expressing anti-racist platitudes would be enough to win over Pitchfork, one of his most rabid critics. They will never accept him. You have to see the bigger picture. Consider Pitchfork’s analogy to Trump’s campaign slogan in their Kamikaze review: …the songs aren’t memorable enough to overcome the latest tinges of homophobia and misogyny from a 45-year-old who either knows better or is outrage-trolling for the attention he doesn’t need. Instead of trying to evolve with the culture, he’d rather Make Rap Great Again. On the execrable “Fall,” which has already been disowned by guest vocalist Justin Vernon, Eminem carelessly lobs an anti-gay slur at Tyler, the Creator. The idea of a white mega-rap star appealing to white people is anathema to Pitchfork. It’s the same kind of irrational phobia the left has of Trump appealing to populism/nativism, i.e., implicit whiteness. The “homophobia and misogyny” just adds fuel to the fire. And Pitchfork trying to palm off their opposition to such content as dispassionate, bona fide music criticism when they’re really just triggered snowflakes is laughable. The fact that I have to explain this to you is laughable. Homophobia and misogyny are hot-button political issues - of course the author’s politics influence his music opinions; that’s why he brought them up. That’s why he gave Fall a negative review because of a single line. I am sure he would heartily agree with Mikelle Street of Billboard that "Eminem needs to be held accountable for using homophobic slurs (again)," and that "the idea that listeners are too 'soft' for critiquing the ways in which rappers weaponize the identities of others against them ignores how hip-hop is a reflection and arbiter of culture." Mac Miller and Action Bronson arguably aren’t fully white (i.e., European). More importantly, the radical left treats people with their backgrounds as minorities. But even if they didn't, they don’t threaten or impinge on hip hop culture in the same way Eminem does in the eyes of Pitchfork and their ilk. I don’t have time to explain every little thing to you. Read up on cultural Marxism.
