Politics Trump vs Athletes

Started by Dread or Alive, Sep 23, 2017, in Life Add to Reading List

POTUS or ATHLETES.

  1. Trump

    20.4%
  2. Athletes

    79.6%
  1. Cyreides
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    Cyreides gfy

    Sep 24, 2017
    are you seriously this much of a delusional, over-dramatic whiny b----?

    pls tell me it ain't so
     
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  2. Dread or Alive
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    Dread or Alive Kamikaze should've been released 3 years ago

    Sep 24, 2017
    They are contractually obligated to not willingly put the contractor at risk. Contractors have a right to protect themselves. This includes both the franchises and the league itself.

    The franchise, or league. And the franchises and the league are in turn held accountable by the sponsors and viewership. Actions have consequences. And there are always limits as to what a player should be allowed to do while representing all of the above, and on tv being watched by millions.


    Do you really think they should pay him millions and let him cost them possibly more money by doing whatever the f--- he wants, and disrespecting both the viewership and the sport.

    Employers have legal rights too you know.
     
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  3. dna hits
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    Sep 24, 2017
    I have to let this sink in for a little bit. Literally just found out when I saw that Kon post. Extremely disappointed in the steelers atm. Glad the penguins start their season soon,
     
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  4. 1999
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    Sep 24, 2017
    how is literally standing on one knee f---ing up millions of dollars, you're delusional af
     
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  5. Dread or Alive
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    Dread or Alive Kamikaze should've been released 3 years ago

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    That's a r-----ed comparison.

    1. Students are customers and not employees getting paid
    2. Students aren't on tv as part of multimillion tv deals
     
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  6. Cyreides
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    Sep 24, 2017
    I'm sorry, how is this putting anyone at risk again?

    and when i ask this

    i mean, in a legitimate way

    not in a way that you're either pulling out of your a---, desperate for a reason to be angry and disapproving about this over, or just straight up can't happen anywhere else but in your imagination
    See, the problem is you're approaching this with the mindset of "absolutely everyone is losing their s--- because of how disrespectful these players are! no one is going to watch these games now and they're gonna lose millions!!!!!!"

    when in in reality

    vast majority of people either

    a) don't care
    or
    b) support the players if they care even slightly

    so your position on this, your entire argument basically... isn't worth s---. you're delusional. grow up and stop trying to police other peoples lives over some s--- that don't affect you m8
     
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  7. 1999
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    Sep 24, 2017
    Nah its a perfect comparison

    1. Signing a contract to work for someone isn't signing away your rights to them, thats slavery
    2. Well yeah but don't see why thats a point
    3. They're both arbitrary to the main goal, the goal of school is to teach saying the pledge every morning is unnecessary, especially since they don't teach you why you should say it or give you a choice, although most teachers dont give af. The goal of the NFL is to play football, they make money off ads and fans watching, they give a check to the players. Saying the national anthem, sitting during it, or standing really has no affect on the overall goal and has nothing to do with the game other than its tradition to do it.
     
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    Sep 24, 2017
    Therefore sitting during the national anthem, while purposely disrespectful, doesn't affect anything but peoples feelings.
     
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  9. Cyreides
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    Sep 24, 2017
    those poor, poor, special snowflake b------s
     
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  10. Dread or Alive
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    Dread or Alive Kamikaze should've been released 3 years ago

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    No, you idiots just live in a f---ing bubble and don't really understand how these things work.

    It starts at the sponsors. If ratings are down and less people are watching, then the sponsorship and tv rights deals that keep these clubs alive will get rekt. Same thing happened with youtube not too long ago. Youtube had to deal with this by suppressing anti-left political content.

    Millions of dollars. Do you guys really think this has no impact?
     
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  11. Cyreides
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    Cyreides gfy

    Sep 24, 2017
    you literally couldn't have it more backwards than this
     
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    Sep 24, 2017
    You're really telling me I live in a bubble? No you don't understand how these things work. This is a game, this isn't some big political movement, its a f---ing football game. It's not like he was supposed to be on the field playing and decided to chill on the bench, he was supposed to put his hand over his heart during the national anthem and stand still, he did that but just took a knee. Chill out with your dumb accusations unless you're willing to show me where major corporations pulled ads from the NFL because of his acts.
     
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    Sep 24, 2017
    You guys will literally go around the earth with bs logic that you know is wrong just to defend trump, holy s---.
     
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    Sep 24, 2017
    They clearly don't understand the business side of this situation. I think Roger needs to put his foot down.
     
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    Worth MILLIONS of dollars. Do you have any idea how much money goes into these things?

    Idiot I said there's a potential risk of doing so. I neither know nor care if any corporations did pull out. But the deals given to them over the long run could be affected by this. Do you know how the concept of 'risk' works . You don't allow it to grow. You stamp it out from early. If every team starts doing this and then a large portion of people ditch the nfl then Sponsors lose money. the NFL WILL lose money as a result. They might be complicit in this, but the businesses interests wont be.




    Sports leagues all over the world take action to to prevent this.
     
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    Enigma Civil liberties > Police safety

    Sep 24, 2017
    Pre 2009 this is how it use to be. Teams stayed in the locker room during the national anthem. Then, the government gave the NFL millions to bring them outside during it. People love to make this about patriotism but it's not -- it's all about money.
     
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  17. Dread or Alive
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    You have rights as an individual. You have less rights as a representative of your employer and you can be held accountable for it.

    Whether they will? Who knows. But this isn't a free speech issue. It's a matter of respecting the platform and not risking your employers. It's a disgrace to sport for a conspiratorial and exaggerated problem.
     
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    That's what i'm trying to tell these guys. why you think Pique hasn't gone all out with a pro catulunya tatoo and just shirtless celebration every time he scores lol.
    [Edit] he'd probably be arrested.
     
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    the only disgrace is that the creepy flag selling song from over a hundred years ago should be in any way forced upon someone to recite, for any reason, and that our current president so heavily advocates and pressures these institutions further into it
     
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  20. Dread or Alive
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    Oh Trump doesn't really have any power here and f--- the institution (well it's a necessary evil but you don't have to like it).

    I'm just refuting the idea that there's no possible consequence and that he has total rights to do this. I'm also against him abusing the platform of sport for political gain. Especially since i think the problem isn't really that big.

    You can't think that people should be allowed to do this without consequences. On their own platforms fine but not on this one.
     
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