Mar 21, 2018 [/QUOTE] Most people around the world don't mind if people marry someone outside of their own race. Yikes i even hate talking in these terms. If it happens why oppose it like you do? Sorry but your logic is that white colonization is to be condoned cus it happened somewhere else? That's not a substantial argument and is not about justice but egotism. Letting you know your flawed arguments are entirely dismissed from now on.
Mar 21, 2018 lol https://www.vox.com/world/2018/3/6/17059744/israel-deport-african-migrants-asylum[/QUOTE] You want to take an example of other Nations (you most likely hate) ? You are a walking contradiction. First you had a sob story about displacement, then you dismissed natives having a right to their land, now you show me an article about the dire condition of African migrants in Israel and somehow you think you come out of this looking like a coherent and righteous person??? I'm done lol.
Mar 21, 2018 Calling antifa a terrorist organisation is an insult to terrorist organisations. I wouldn’t even call the modern kkk a terrorist organisation tbh
Mar 21, 2018 show me how white people are being “holocausted” in america. (ironic bc your type is usually pro-holocaust.)
Mar 21, 2018 Spacemonkey the biggest cac this forum has ever seen Only ppl who hype him up are similar socially awkward introverts who can’t look ppl in the eye when in public
Mar 21, 2018 Not really but if they’re at the top of anyone’s list of worries then they must be living a d--- good life
Mar 21, 2018 Quit harping on the word holocaust. You know what I meant. And no, I don't believe in genocide, and neither do most people on the further right (I would know, you, being in an echo chamber, wouldn't). Since you won't believe a word I say because you have your mind made up that I'm a virulent racist whose favorite pastime is looking at his tiki torch collection, I'll defer to two strongly identified Jews who are entirely on my side on this issue, Stephen Steinlight and Marcus Athelia, who is a contributor to The Occidental Quarterly. According to Steinlight, massive immigration is bad for Jews. https://www.cis.org/Report/High-Noon-Midnight-Why-Current-Immigration-Policy-Dooms-American-Jewry Something for you to think about. Also: Spoiler Jews and Immigration: Time for Change Marcus Athelia1 Or country and its Jewish Intelligentsia are currently torn by a debate about immigration. On one side the Trump administration is trying to pass executive orders limiting immigration from particular, though certainly not all, Muslim-majority countries while also deporting people — largely from Mexico or Central America — who are in the United States illegally. On the other side are activist judges shutting down these executive orders and what seems like the entire constellation of journalists, pundits and activists in the country decrying these moves. From looking at the writers of many op-ed pieces or from looking through Jewish publications such as Forward, it is clear that Jews are disproportionately lobbying in favor of immigration and against deportation or immigration restrictions. Jewish organizations ostensibly formed to lobby for Jewish interests are on the side of resettling more Muslim refugees.2 Some voices on this side go so far as to call for “open borders” as in a recent piece in Salon.3 Most of the left has long decried the idea of White interests or White rights as being inherently racist in a way that Black rights or Latino interests aren’t. See, for instance, David Aaronovitch’s recent op-ed “Defending ‘White interests’ Can Never Be Right” in The Times.4 I think Jews are on the wrong side of this debate, and have been for decades. Countries are not arbitrary designations on a map, and borders are not imaginary lines. Countries are defined by their people, and borders generally demarcate necessary walls between peoples. Good fences make good neighbors, as the saying goes. Globalization and mass immigration result in what amounts to demographic invasion. It is natural for host populations to resist this being forced upon them. The Jewish support for so-called “immigrant rights” is supposed to be rooted in the Jewish experience of diaspora and constant movement. Being exiled from our home in ancient times, we should feel sympathy with others who need to leave their homes in modern times.5 Jews have prospered in America because it is a multicultural society with such a rainbow of peoples that no true majority exists, or will soon, if current demographic trends continue. I think Jews should be looking at this in another way. My ancestors hid from the Nazis and their Eastern European allies as small children. Shuttled from place to place, sometimes shielded by kind-hearted Christians, our family ultimately survived both Nazi and later Soviet occupation. But communism was not to their liking and they fled, not to the United States, but to Palestine, which they then helped make into Israel. The great story of Jewish diaspora does not end in a borderless world, it ends in Zionism and Israel. Despite the countless mistakes Zionists have made and continue to make, the basic reasonableness of their position remains: a people needs a homeland. Israel is very far from perfect but at least it is a home that provides a haven for a people. Our great mistake is thinking this situation is unique to Jews — a point the Palestinians vainly try to remind us of. In Michael Houellebecq’s novel Submission, France elects an Islamic left coalition government which supervises a national transition to Islam. The Jews of France, realizing they aren’t safe, leave. Not for the United States, but for Israel. As the narrator says goodbye to his Jewish girlfriend, she asks him if he will stay. “There is no Israel for me,” he says. People deserve their own homelands. When Rep. Steve King sent his famous tweet about “other people’s babies,” that is what he meant. Throughout its history, the United States was primarily composed of White Europeans. The average demographic balance in the country was a little less than 90 percent White. The country’s demographic composition changed as a result of the Jewish-backed 1965 Immigration and Nationality Act.6 When the act was passed, its backers promised that there would be no overall change in demographic composition. But not only was that untrue, now large swaths of the left and open-borders advocates argue that to care about this change, much less take any action whatsoever to try to stop or reverse it, is racist. Imagine if Israel admitted enormous numbers of non-Jewish immigrants, say Muslim Kurds, and made them citizens. I greatly admire the Kurds, and I’m sure Israeli society wouldn’t suffer from a few new Kurdish citizens. But imagine that their numbers were so many that Kurds, along with Palestinians, were projected to outnumber the Jews in 50 years. The Jews would once again be a minority. Jewish leftists, liberals, and even neocons pretend that this is different. How exactly so? What is the moral imperative for European Whites to become the minority in their homelands? Africa’s population is projected to triple in the next century. How many African migrants must Europe take in? How many refugees from Muslim countries? Must Houellebecq’s vision become a reality? Japan’s population is over 99 percent ethnic Japanese. This is in fact the norm in much of Asia, Africa, and the Middle East. Why should Japan’s ethnic homogeneity be unthreatened but France’s population altered completely? One can argue this is rooted in colonialism, but Japan also participated in an aggressive imperialism throughout East and Southeast Asia, and yet Japanese immigration laws remain strict, largely without leftist or Jewish complaint. Jewish organizations and activists use the Holocaust as a reminder of the immorality of not taking in people under specific threat. In these specifics they are right – I think it was morally wrong to turn the St. Louis back and not arrange for later temporary safe haven for the 20,000 Jewish child refugees. Similarly, few people think that genuine war refugees fleeing for their lives from ISIS should just be treated with a shrug and left to die. But the lesson drawn is also wrong. After World War II, the Jews of Europe poured mainly into Israel. For Jews, the lesson of the holocaust was that Jews needed a homeland, not that any particular country should take them in. Now having a homeland, Jews have no business denying other nations their own, and a people’s desire to control their demographic destiny is their fundamental and moral right. There are other ways of helping war refugees without making them a permanent presence in your nation, such as peacefully settling them in their own culture regions.7 The United States is not in fact a proposition nation and Jewish-American poet Emma Lazarus’ poem was not actually about immigration.8 As American Jews, we are essentially guests in the United States, a historically White Christian nation where a Jewish minority has thrived, but has in many ways acted against the interest of our hosts. As Kevin MacDonald points out in his Culture of Critique, partially because of our fear of persecution and being noticed as an ethnic minority outgroup, Jews have promoted mass immigration to devastating effect.9 We cannot atone for the immense historical mistake influential Jewish thinkers and activists made in doing this. But ordinary Jews can help do our part to undo these errors by at least supporting the rights of the majority to control their homeland and demographic destiny. This can be done peacefully, by removing those here illegally, helping resettle refugees back in their home countries, and making immigration laws more restrictive. In Europe the situation is in many ways more desperate, and there too Jews should understand and support the movements to project strong European majorities in all countries. It is not racist for European people to want to be majorities in their own countries, any more than it is for Asians, Africans, or Jews. It is not Hungarian supremacy that makes Hungary close its borders and try to maintain its cultural uniqueness. It is not Jewish supremacy that makes Israelis think a Jewish majority in Israel is necessary and reasonable. And it is not White supremacy that makes White Americans wish to preserve a White majority which implies no ill-treatment or legal second-class status for non-Whites. All Jews know that open borders would be a disaster for Israel. It is equally disastrous for everybody else. 1 Marcus Alethia is the pen name of a professor of international relations. 2 ADL, “ADL Strongly Condemns President Trump’s Executive Order on Immigration and Refugees,” ADL.org (January 25, 2017). 3 Anis Shivani, “Everyone’s Wrong on Immigration: Open Borders are the Only way to Defeat Trump and Build a Better World,” Salon (March 15, 2017) 4 David Aaronovitch, “Defending White Interests’ Can Never Be Right,” The Times (March 15, 2017). 5 Maya Wax Cavallaro, “Donald Trump’s Plan for Immigration Should Scare the h--- out of Jews,” Forward (November 1, 2016). 6 Kevin MacDonald, “Jewish Involvement in Shaping U.S. Immigration Policy: A Historical Review,” Population and Environment 19, no. 4 (March 1998): 295-356. https://www.researchgate.net/public..._Involvement_in_Shaping_US_Immigration_Policy 7 Karen Zeigler, “The High Cost of Resettling Middle Eastern Refugees,” Center for Immigration Studies (November 2016). 8 Howard Sutherland, “The ‘Nation of Immigrants’ Myth,” The American Conservative (November 18, 2002). 9 Kevin MacDonald, The Culture of Critique: an Evolutionary analysis of Jewish Involvement in Twentieth-Century Intellectual and Political Movements (Westport, CT: Praeger, 1998; paperback version with updated preface: Bloomington, IN: AuthorHouse, 2002).
