Jun 23, 2016 I have yet to find good arguments for UK leaving EU. How can you listen to Nigel Farage and not think hes a complete moron.
Jun 23, 2016 How about the fact the country with the highest standard of living in the world and a booming economy thinks the EU is joke
Jun 23, 2016 Or the fact that EU presidents and officials aren't elected by the public and it's completely anti democratic but tbh I don't think Euro elites care too much about democracy
Jun 23, 2016 It's not about Nigel Farage. There is a cross party support of leaving the EU. I don't see any benefits of tying ourselves to an area that is experiencing struggles and is not showing the ability to lead the future. Switzerland has around 4 times the amount of trade deals than the EU does. Obviously when we can manage our own trade deals then it would be better for Britain- quicker and more tailored to our needs. At the end of the day, this is about democracy. The EU is a political union that wants a United States of Europe. Why should we let 60% of our laws be made in Brussels?
Jun 23, 2016 I feel bad for the folks who believe this is a right or left wing issue. They are falling for the divide and conquer meme. They want you dirty goys to believe if you leave the EU, Farage becomes supreme leader and starts eating Muslim children live on Sky News.
Jun 23, 2016 I guarantee you, majority of the votes to leave are people on benefits thinking it will get rid of immigrants who take their jobs or get rid of Islam (Whatever that means)
Jun 23, 2016 There are so many half-truths in what you guys are saying that I could write a book about it... Brexit is not going to happen nonetheless. I'm out of this thread. Thanks for the discussion tho. It was very unnerving but overall pretty nice experience.
Jun 23, 2016 That's what they want you to think, you should be able to see through this. They will stand on the grave of an MP and use it to further their pro EU BS. They will tell you if you vote leave you hate Islam, when that has nothing to do with it. It's about a failing Euro, it's about people who aren't British ethnically or via citizenship deciding what's best for British people. It never once had anything to do with Islam. Ts tragic to see that they have manipulated the message so much that the public who are pro remain are pro remain for the wrong reasons.
Jun 23, 2016 I just don't get why anyone would want their country on a leash held by nameless and faceless people in a non democratic union.
Jun 23, 2016 For f---s sake, if you're saying the EU is non democratic union, please tell me how does an implementation of the law look like. You clearly has no idea what you're talking about. Of course, there's a deficit of democracy but you present your facts in the way like it was the Soviet Union. It's horribly unfair.
Jun 23, 2016 They are not elected by the public. That's all that matters. Why in the name of all things holy would you give power over Britian to non British people living in Belgium? You can't possibly be for non elected officials if you're pro democracy. I'd be fine with a trade union, which is what the EU was supposed to be before they decided to go full United States of Europe on everyone. And don't act all superior, saying I don't know what I'm talking about. That's not an argument.
Jun 23, 2016 Why are we a part of IMF or NATO? The authorities in these two organisations also aren't elected by the people. It's highly undemocratic. That's how the today's world is going? You want to be a f---ing North Korea?!
Jun 23, 2016 Nato doesn't have the power the EU has lmao. It's like comparing the EU to your local book club down the street.
Jun 23, 2016 All I want is an independent Britian who makes her own trade deals on its own terms with no eurocrats telling them what to do.
Jun 23, 2016 I'm getting memed on right there's no way you think an independant U.K is going to be the European equivalent to North Korea
Jun 23, 2016 I imagine the world where the UK isn't a member of the EU and nothing really much changes, but your arguments against that are so weak dude. If I said during the exam that the current EU has all the characteristics of the United States of Europe concept I would receive the lowest grade possible. Your half-truths are hurting my feelings. I would send you the most important articles and the chapters I've read about EU lacking democracy or EU's involvement in making a national law, but practically all of them are in Polish. I don't know where to find good ones in English.
Jun 23, 2016 How can you not see the end game here for the EU? Does it not look like a beta test for a one word government? They openly discuss the possibility of forming an EU army. It is simply dangerous to have your future dictated by people without your best interests at heart. You can vote to remove a David Cameron. You can't remove the president of the EU. It's simply not right for an entity not elected by the people to have so much control over them. If that's a weak argument, so be it.
