Dec 5, 2016

d--- i was spot f---ing one witht he timeline thing and MiB/Will

not too sure about that finale though, feel like there's a few surprises left...

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doubt ford is dead. bet you he made a host of himself. Otherwise it doesn't make any sense, like there's nearly no motivation for Ford to create this giant story just to willingly let himself die.

 

Dec 5, 2016

He was being pushed out. I think he knew it would end that way, and his narrative had been building toward that moment the entire time.

 

Dec 5, 2016

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Yep I reckon Ford has his conscious stored in a host

 

Dec 5, 2016

ok wait guys, s---. (spoilered only for people who havent seen this ep. its all just conjecture though)

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Ok so i'm thinking of that part where Ford is finally spilling the beans to Delores... someone's like "aw boo boo, u k--- arnold" and he's like
"no, we had a disagreement after his Revelation. i tried to convince him to continue to open the park, I thought i did..."
"but it was Delores who killed him"

it kinda throws me off a lot. like, Ford REALLY REALLY wanted to keep the park open by the sounds of it and Arnold tried to sabotage it. why would Ford's motives then change to "ok well arnold sabotaged it, ill throw this new story in that's literally what arnold wanted and in the process i will die."
like i get the motive if he finally realized the wishes/true intentions of an old friend and executed them in his memory - but they poorly executed that if that's what they were trying to portray. which leads em to think that maybe Arnold/Ford have/had a plan/idea to transfer consciousness. It makes me think back to Fords speech about guests being just "guests" in a world he owns and is God of. But what's the one thing a God for westworld can't do? outlive his own world. sso long as they remain human, they will at some point lose the park and status of "god" that Ford seems to enjoy so much.

 

Dec 5, 2016

I get what you mean but seems like 35 years passed between Arnold's death and the current storyline. That's a lot of time to reflect on something, and realize your mistakes. Plus Ford seemed to share the same philosophy as MIB on the Hosts being designed to fail. I think it happened as he planned. He wasn't going quietly.

 

Dec 5, 2016

Mind blowing

 

Dec 5, 2016

But AH, is finishing what Arnold started. We saw him add another layer to the pyramid

 

Dec 5, 2016

i really think

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ford is dead. i don't think anthony hopkins would have signed on for more than one season, and putting the crux of the plot of the show's lifespan on ford is a lot when the actor is 80 years old

that being said

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if he is alive, the host he was building when he had bernard k--- theresa was a dupe of him who he had give the speech and get killed in his place

 

Dec 5, 2016

Dolores is finally at the center of the maze. Her own voice controls her now

 

Dec 5, 2016

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Ford’s new narratives are real conflicts that present real dangers to people.
Maeve’s "escape" narrative was made for Westworld employees, specifically Felix. It’s unclear if the guards who were shot were hosts or people, even Felix’s partner may have been a host.
The host uprising was also a narrative, and the unwitting participants were Delos & co, and they clearly didn’t survive the story. It’s unclear how much of that actually relied on Dolores’ "consciousness" and how much was just programmed in.

 

Dec 5, 2016

Glad I enjoyed this show on my own instead of dissecting the narrative each week. Saw somebody say the the Man In Black reveal was lame because Reddit predicted it. Imagine thinking the reveal was the pay off and not the flood of emotions behind it. Fandom ruins TV lol. Learned that lesson by the end of True Detective's first season.

Writing was on point for the final episode. So many great monologues. So many emotional peaks. Really hope this show has a conclusion in mind and doesn't just become elaborate twists and fan service kept going for profits. So much promise here.

 

Dec 5, 2016

This was f---ing amazing

 

Dec 5, 2016

Hope they aint k--- off Charlotte tho she bad af

 

Dec 5, 2016

Dead Ford having been a host would completely undermine the entire point of Dolores' arch. Also, wouldn't be surprised if Perkins only signed on for a season.

 

Dec 5, 2016

fully believe hopkins would not have signed on for multiple seasons. best for both sides tbh

 

Dec 5, 2016

the future of this show is about much more than just ford