Where do you place your self on the political spectrum?

Started by Allis Mines, Aug 22, 2020, in Life Add to Reading List

..

  1. Right

    14.7%
  2. Center

    32.4%
  3. Left

    52.9%
  1. Guma
    Posts: 12,978
    Likes: 27,303
    Joined: Feb 15, 2011

    Aug 22, 2020
    Honestly I feel like Americans live in the bubble and don't know how good they have compared to other countries. The grass is always greener on the other side.
     
    0 0
    May 2, 2025
  2. skip
    Posts: 425
    Likes: 1,093
    Joined: Mar 16, 2019

    Aug 22, 2020
    cost of living
     
    1
    Ordinary Joel likes this.
    1
    Ordinary Joel likes this.
    May 2, 2025
  3. skip
    Posts: 425
    Likes: 1,093
    Joined: Mar 16, 2019

    Aug 22, 2020
    What do u pay at the dr without insurance? How much is minimum wage and median wage in Poland? Cost of living? This reductionism of complex issues is the exact flaw I see in pro life arguments
     
    RetiredAccount and Ordinary Joel like this.
    May 2, 2025
  4. Guma
    Posts: 12,978
    Likes: 27,303
    Joined: Feb 15, 2011

    Aug 22, 2020
    Not really I just don't see how it is possible with prices and wages in USA. I feel like you people are too accustomed to your privileged lives there so any less than that you guys find insulting and not liveable.
     
    0 0
    May 2, 2025
  5. Guma
    Posts: 12,978
    Likes: 27,303
    Joined: Feb 15, 2011

    Aug 22, 2020
    Cost of living is largely the same here.
     
    0 0
    May 2, 2025
  6. Michael Myers
    Posts: 45,297
    Likes: 92,563
    Joined: Feb 28, 2011

    Michael Myers Moderator

    Aug 22, 2020
    to start off... here we aren't so obsessed (not meant as an insult or compliment) with people. Idc about journalist, youtube losers, or other people giving their unimportant opinions on twitter.

    I do think the american election system is a media circus and I cant take any of those dumb f---s serious. Trump is an insult to politics

    But aside from all the names I see I never heard off, I'm mostly interested in what it means. Not some try hard names or people, but what does being left center or right mean to you?

    I'm gonna give some examples / statements that make me vote for a party in Holland thats probably mostly right (as in not left). Just gonna name some things and curious where u would place me

    One IMPORTANT note; its based on events and life in europe and the netherlands, so NOT on american standards.
     
    1
    Ordinary Joel likes this.
    1
    Ordinary Joel likes this.
    May 2, 2025
  7. skip
    Posts: 425
    Likes: 1,093
    Joined: Mar 16, 2019

    Aug 22, 2020
    5C96981A-63F4-4184-BC33-5A46B2E515B0.jpeg
     
    RetiredAccount and Ordinary Joel like this.
    May 2, 2025
  8. skip
    Posts: 425
    Likes: 1,093
    Joined: Mar 16, 2019

    Aug 22, 2020
     
    1
    Ordinary Joel likes this.
    1
    Ordinary Joel likes this.
    May 2, 2025
  9. skip
    Posts: 425
    Likes: 1,093
    Joined: Mar 16, 2019

    Aug 22, 2020
    256985C1-5E11-4F08-A94D-56C56485F554.jpeg
     
    RetiredAccount and Ordinary Joel like this.
    May 2, 2025
  10. Guma
    Posts: 12,978
    Likes: 27,303
    Joined: Feb 15, 2011

    Aug 22, 2020
    Minimum wage: 1877 zł netto. Median wage in 2020: around 5000 zł. I don't know how much you pay without insurance, but if you don't have a job and you are registered as unemployed you can use public healthcare so it isn't that much of a problem.
     
    1
    Ordinary Joel likes this.
    1
    Ordinary Joel likes this.
    May 2, 2025
  11. Guma
    Posts: 12,978
    Likes: 27,303
    Joined: Feb 15, 2011

    Aug 22, 2020
    Yeah, but compare it to our wages. We are certainly worse off than you guys.
     
    1
    Ordinary Joel likes this.
    1
    Ordinary Joel likes this.
    May 2, 2025
  12. skip
    Posts: 425
    Likes: 1,093
    Joined: Mar 16, 2019

    Aug 22, 2020
    All of that and despite no social safety net to speak of we pay ~10% less taxes than yall
     
    1
    Ordinary Joel likes this.
    1
    Ordinary Joel likes this.
    May 2, 2025
  13. skip
    Posts: 425
    Likes: 1,093
    Joined: Mar 16, 2019

    Aug 22, 2020
    Adjusted to usd yalls median monthly is 1500 ours is 3500. Not that significant of a leap given that everything is doubly expensive here and public healthcare isn’t a thing

    One of my best friends had an asthma attack yesterday, a violent one in which they needed to rush to the ER. Do you know how much they paid for a $12 inhaler? $375 not including whatever hospital bills to pay for the staffs time.
     
    1
    Ordinary Joel likes this.
    1
    Ordinary Joel likes this.
    May 2, 2025
  14. skip
    Posts: 425
    Likes: 1,093
    Joined: Mar 16, 2019

    Aug 22, 2020
    By pro life logic, he simply shouldn’t have been so irresponsible to have been poor and have health complications. He worked in the Texas oil fields making good $ until the gas prices dropped and half of em got laid off. Wouldn’t personally say it was a moral failing on his part that happened to him.
     
    1
    Ordinary Joel likes this.
    1
    Ordinary Joel likes this.
    May 2, 2025
  15. Michael Myers
    Posts: 45,297
    Likes: 92,563
    Joined: Feb 28, 2011

    Michael Myers Moderator

    Aug 22, 2020
    Americans have it good compared to s-----y countries but honestly living in europe >>>>>>>

    Not all countries maybe but holland germany belgium france etc is paradise compared to most of the world
     
    1
    Ordinary Joel likes this.
    1
    Ordinary Joel likes this.
    May 2, 2025
  16. Guma
    Posts: 12,978
    Likes: 27,303
    Joined: Feb 15, 2011

    Aug 22, 2020
    Yeah, but dollar plummeted lately. It was like 4zł+ for 1$ not that long ago.
    Yeah, but as I said I don't like neither your system nor ours really.
     
    1
    Ordinary Joel likes this.
    1
    Ordinary Joel likes this.
    May 2, 2025
  17. Guma
    Posts: 12,978
    Likes: 27,303
    Joined: Feb 15, 2011

    Aug 22, 2020
    :emoji_triumph:
     
    Ordinary Joel and Michael Myers like this.
    May 2, 2025
  18. Guma
    Posts: 12,978
    Likes: 27,303
    Joined: Feb 15, 2011

    Aug 22, 2020
    What kind of argument is that. Do you really compared aborting someone to that?
     
    0 0
    May 2, 2025
  19. Michael Myers
    Posts: 45,297
    Likes: 92,563
    Joined: Feb 28, 2011

    Michael Myers Moderator

    Aug 22, 2020
    I meant like 3rd world countries lol but I think europe s----s on america
     
    2
    Ordinary Joel and Guma like this.
    2
    Ordinary Joel and Guma like this.
    May 2, 2025
  20. Guma
    Posts: 12,978
    Likes: 27,303
    Joined: Feb 15, 2011

    Aug 22, 2020
    LOL earlier maybe I don't see it that way anymore.
     
    Ordinary Joel and Michael Myers like this.
    May 2, 2025