Dec 8, 2015 You know you have no argument when you have to bring up the crusades when talking about Christian terrorism. Can you not get a better example? Why not use that white guy who shot up a PP? ...because you forgot about it, perhaps? Because only a week later Islamic terrorism got a way higher body count?
Dec 8, 2015 Is this a provable thing because I've never heard of it Also, @you and @JMG, Waco Texas. The church there, a christian church, that radicalized it's members and caused the biggest standoff in Texas that ended with the death of dozens of women and children. Caused by white, christian extremists. "some churches preach radicalization let's treat them all as threats"
Dec 8, 2015 Racism is just more directed xenophobia Personally I'm glad we live in a world where flat out slander of an entire people, by a presidential candidate no less, is met with distaste
Dec 8, 2015 Did you forget I'm a half Asian atheist? What does white terrorism have to do with anything? White terrorism is a meme, it barely ever happens. Americans are far too pumped up with estrogen and are too docile to form terror cells. The PP shooter acted alone because there's no group for him to join. Or if there is, they aren't very successful, lmao.
Dec 8, 2015 why does it matter, you know very well there are Christian terrorists, why are you arguing who has more of a body count like its a game?
Dec 8, 2015 Uhm....because of threat levels? What's a bigger threat, a lone Christian radical, or a group? Because the guy in San Bernadino didn't act alone. He had others with him.
Dec 8, 2015 Aren't we doing that now? The NSA is corrupt. Which is why I mentioned warrants. Evidence of radicalization = getting a warrant = shutting the place down.
Dec 8, 2015 Radical islam is a major issue. You can't sweep it under the rug. The statement 'it has nothing to do with islam' is an outright lie.
Dec 8, 2015 Are we seriously gonna act like Christian extremest is as much as a problem as radical islam? We have one side willing to die to k--- innocent people in the name of their god. You can bring up a church in Texas and I can bring up the WTC. Both religions have their dark sides but right now one is much more darker and a big threat to everyone. Are you saying its ok for ISIS to exist because of Christian crusades?
Dec 8, 2015 Never saw that thread lol But my point, bro, is that radical right-wing white churches exist as much, possibly moreso, than radical mosques in america Westboro is a thing. The waco church (whose name escapes me) was a thing. Every single member of the kkk is an acting christian, and goes to church every Sunday with like minded individuals. Jasper, Texas is a good piece of anecdotal evidence I'll throw in as a place that's exceedingly racist. There's a lot more hate coming from rural white america than Muslim america
Dec 8, 2015 Ok. So again, are you in favor of innocent civilians being watched as a potential threat?
Dec 8, 2015 I'm saying we shouldn't demonize an entire religious group for the actions of idiots Yes, ISIS members and terrorists are a problem. But so are the people going "hey let's limit muslims' freedoms in the hopes it will deter terrorists that are often disconnected from casual islam"
Dec 8, 2015 Westboro don't k--- people for drawing Jesus incorrectly. If you think holding a God hates f--s sign is the same as murdering people, ,you need to seriously reevaluate the way you approach radicalization. The KKK has zero pull in the world, they are the butt end of jokes, who the f--- is in the KKK, really? How many times do we see lynchings in 2015? Don't forget that "rural America" far outnumbers Muslim Americans, too.
Dec 8, 2015 Trump did no such thing. Trump is calling for a background check and identification in Muslims. His mistake and the reason why he's getting backlash is probably because he didn't do it after a 9/11 level of attack. The Japanese were treated the same way post Pearl Harbour (h--- we put them in INTERNMENT CAMPS) and no one batted an eye. Trump is taking preventative measures rather than responsive measures. I'm not 100% sold on Trumps idea, but I can see why he did it, and I don't see any racism involved. And again, Islam is not a race, I could pledge loyalty to the Islamic State right now and take upon all it's principles. I can control my beliefs. I also don't believe in "respecting religious practices" whatsoever. I'm the last guy to attack anyone for their beliefs, if you're a muslim I will treat you the same as I do an atheist, christian, whatever; but at the same time I don't feel any obligation to respect someone for being a christian, muslim, buddhist, anything. Religion falls under the same category as politics to me. Thats why I'm not afraid to admit there's radicalism in many religions, especially Islam and Christianity. They are radical ideas that people try to pad with the times, but there's text in the Bible and Qu'ran that flatout promote radicalism either through storytelling or flat out rhetoric. It's not the same as race. It's not even the same as being Jewish. Being Jewish in Germany in 1940 is nothing like being Muslim in America in 2015. Donald Trump is nothing like hitler. The comparisons are honestly ridiculous.
