Apr 10, 2016a forewarning: don't listen to anything youbetterbelieveit says, he's just some skinny white nerd who loves eminem, tried to rap, and stanned yelawolf.
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Translation: "I can't read"
No hate tho I actually thought u could read no lieSuburban Scum, Thy, Goldy and 1 other person like this. -
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@Narsh you started this thread saying that it was supposed to be more general than just Thug but now it's like all you're talking about.Ordinary Joel, an0nymous, MTY and 1 other person like this. -
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do u think king troup is as meticulously put together as anything Kendrick does when writing about the same or similar topics?
and if so, then a follow up question: how does it feel being the biggest stan on this website?Ordinary Joel, DKC, Nav Bhatia and 1 other person like this.Dec 18, 2025(This ad goes away when signing up) -
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The core mentality in hip hop that has people assuming that the genre needs to be about certain specific topics and needs to sound a certain way to be considered rapOrdinary Joel, Fire Squad, dkdnfbdjdkdddjdjfvcgfl and 1 other person like this. -
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you can't claim "oh this just my opinion" when stating s--- as factsOrdinary Joel, ArthurDW and Narsh like this. -
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PARTY LIKE A ROCK-
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Good question and a lot of great answers in this thread. I've grown alongside the genre and it's incredible seeing how it pretty much dominates pop culture, it's well known that it's the most listened to and popular form of music.
Growing up here in the foundation itself New York I've ran across several folks that fit into what you're pointing out the "Rap should only be____" instead of realizing that it was meant to be listened to in various, unrestricted ways. Granted I've learned that not everyone also has the time or patience of studying the history and context of hip-hop but based on my personal experiences, I do think the audiences have now been a lot more progressive in accepting the mass amount of different content Rap has to offer nowadays. Before Ye & Wayne I doubt most of these new artists would have flourished considering the different setting and environment at the time.Ordinary Joel, Section80 and Narsh like this. -
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I think there's more narrow mindedness in people who listen to dad-rock tbh. they all carry this stigma that if an actual guitar isn't used in creating the song, it's immediately s--- and easy to make. They constantly say s--- like "omg that club music is garbage it's all just dumb lyrics" as well as "music today is terrible i wish i was born in 1983 during pink floyds peak" or some bs. They literally cannot like anything but their own genre and it's not that they go "oh i don't like this song" they try their absolute hardest to belittle the song and make it seem as if a monkey could have done better.Radeem, Ordinary Joel and Narsh like this. -
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omfg can u shut the f--- up about young thugOrdinary Joel, Section80 and Narsh like this. -
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I meant this link not the M&M ad...
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I get what ur saying narsh, but i personally haven't ran across people in real life that hate on future/young thug. Even my one friend who's an eminem stan and "real hip hop fan" loves thug and future. Like @Kold saying its becoming more and more accepted in mainstream culture. I mean you have a bootleg future song "panda" charting higher than any actual future song. Trap is the wave right now tbh. Only a couple of artists aren't hopping on the trap wave. Even drake did an album with future
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To answer the OP, it's a stereo-type thing. Hip-hop has always changed throughout the decades but for the most part it's been a slow change. From the 70's to the 80's, from the 80's to the 90's, the genre's sound did alter but it remained rooted in technical ability. If you could spit clever rhymes over a boom bat beat, you were considered dope. That soon began to change towards the late 90's and especially at the turn of the century. Artists like Diddy, 50 Cent, Ja Rule, Nelly etc. began to emerge with music less rooted in technical ability (rhyming multis, fast delivery, etc.) and more rooted in catchy, sing-along tunes. That's where I think the divide really started to begin. You had hip-hop fans push away rappers that sang because they weren't staying true to what the genre was from the 70's-90's. Then you had the other fans who got on board with the new sound. Now it's just become this overwhelming stereo-type of if you make different or unique sounding hip-hop music, it's not "real hip-hop." @NarshOrdinary Joel, dkdnfbdjdkdddjdjfvcgfl and Narsh like this. -
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Agree. This is how i put it in a previous convo
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Thank u
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I posed the same question before in the jcn thread. Interesting topic to meOrdinary Joel, MTY and Immy like this.
