Jul 25, 2016 lol what? someone making a few clicks and making another account really isnt that big of a deal lol what perry did is just embarassing though.
Jul 25, 2016 that doesn't make it ok in any shape or form. They already had an agenda to begin with. But yeah the corruption is nothing new.
Jul 25, 2016 Lmao, yes, the Democratic senator/first lady under a Democratic president/Secretary of State under another Democratic president and the independent senator are seen equally by the DNC
Jul 25, 2016 I'm not really talking about how long they have been apart of their political parties. but yeah if you really break down their ideologies, neither of them are traditional democrats, just like trump is not conservative. f--- this election
Jul 25, 2016 Bernie called for a primary challenge to President Obama in 2012, people. This isn't complicated.
Jul 25, 2016 @Lamont has like, a profoundly dense idea of what it "means" to be republican/conservative, democrat/liberal. this s--- evolves. trump, in fact, is causing some clear shift. this is why earlier i predicted, eventually, the democratic party may be the sole large conservative party... then we'd have a smaller progressive, and a smaller hate-filled/fact averse conservative party.
Jul 25, 2016 i wouldnt How can you call me dense and then agree with me in the very next sentences? Ive acknowledged the amount of diverse candidates in this election when you really look at it, I said the same exact thing about Trump causing waves and changing the system.
Jul 25, 2016 Yeah but the DNC is corrupt! They "rigged the election," despite their primary/caucus system making the race closer than it would have been by straight popular vote lol
Jul 25, 2016 who defines the democrat party over the last 30 years IF NOT THE CLINTONS. dude you are WRONG. stop the fact you think we're in agreement proves how dense you are bro.
Jul 25, 2016 No the clintons were more center/moderate than most democrats, the clintons do not define the democrats.
Jul 25, 2016 Dude Bill Clinton and the whole New Democrat thing reconfigured the party's national identity.
Jul 25, 2016 @captain awesome is right - Hillary doesn't really break from the party in any fundamental ways, despite the leftward s--- in recent years (largely, I think, as a reaction to the rightward shift of the GOP - but that's another argument). Trump really, REALLY does - from his isolationist tendencies to his positions (if you can call them that) on trade, he's reshaping the party in a big way. Compare him to the last Republican president, or even the last Republican nominee. These policy issues are causing party disunity just as much as (or more than) Trump's controversial comments are (I don't think most Republicans care that much about Trump being mean to Muslims and Mexicans tbh lol) @Lamont you're not wrong that Bill Clinton was something of a centrist. Hillary is quite a bit more liberal though, and a much better fit for where the party is at in 2016. I mean, they are different people, let's not forget
Jul 25, 2016 A 75 year old Jewish socialist can relate to people way better than a woman worth millions who is part of a political dynasty. I don't think it's even debatable at this point. Hillary is easier to attack because of the FBI investigations, the Clinton foundation, really all she needed to do was make herself more likeable than Trump and she is seriously struggling to do so, Sanders wouldn't have had that problem, he looks and sounds like Larry David for f--- sake he would have had this election in the bag. DNC should have smelled the coffee and realized having an independant represent them would help shed that corrupt party image. Trump is taking all the heat in this election, not the GOP.
Jul 25, 2016 I'm not arguing that? I'm saying that 1 president and hillary who isnt president yet, dont necessarily reflect all of the values of the democratic party, they are more moderate than most democrats
Jul 25, 2016 Islam is not an ethnic group. It is a system of beliefs. Yes, he wants to temporarily ban Muslims entering the country until the US government is more self aware of it's issues and can better handle the problem . Intentionally disregarding the context of what he said and using it as a base to create personal attacks is cheap and dishonest. Something you've said to me alot and have tried using against me on multiple occasions. A little hypocritical of you there. Instead of contending his solution, all you try to do is to defame his person.
Jul 25, 2016 talking to some of you is ridiculous. grow up/learn how to think lol re-upping this in the meantime http://gawker.com/dont-blow-this-1775111772
Jul 25, 2016 Yeah Paul Ryan made a comment about how "far far far" left Hillary is now under the "new party platform" and the policies that she adopted from bernie. pretty hilarious, because hillary is moderate, she agreed with the republicans quite a bit in the past. the funny thing is im not sure if hillary is actually more liberal or if she is just saying she is, we will see. her record does not reflect liberal values.
