Apr 24, 2015

@Koolo i don't think scores are always terrible. they're a good marketing ploy. people like them. but they also become the be-all, end-all to people who don't want to read the actual criticism. when i have the latitude to not attach them to reviews, that's what i do.

but if you're asking me what score i would give it, it would be the in the low- to mid-8 range. 8.3 sounds right.

would you like me to pm you the review or nah

--

@Narsh i wouldn't be mad at people saying me, drake, or meaghan had the best review. she and i hit most of the same points.

--

@TimmyT i think each of birdman's verses is great, and as i said in the last two paragraphs of this review, i think his one on "constantly hating" in particular adds to the song by being the counterpoint to thug's flow.

 

Apr 24, 2015

i understand that and its a valid point, you want people to read the review

but to say scores are pointless is dumb, it should reflect the write up at the end of the day...you feel 5 songs are bad but the other 5 are so f---ing out of this world then you dont have to give it 5/10...give it more lol

score = write up

thats all im saying

 

Apr 24, 2015

Reading these reviews have honestly helped me appreciate Thugger more. I'm getting a lot more out of his music.
Also, I'm very likeminded when it comes to scoring an album. More so because of the people who worship scores.
Aggregate scoring like RT is the most reasonable to me. Scoring that reflects enjoyment rather than ambiguous quantization.

 

Apr 24, 2015

bylines. bylines, bylines, bylines.

 

Apr 24, 2015

shade detected


edit: no shade from my end but looking at all three of those pieces id go:

drake
based WPG
meghan
me


still the only 4 good reviews of this album available. i guess it could've been worse, and everyone could've been as off base or dismissive as Fantano's

 

Apr 24, 2015

why

 

Apr 24, 2015

Because the publication itself doesn't push individual writers as the selling point, they, understandably, push their brand and their image. You go to pitchfork for a "pitchfork review" (and bring with you whatever stigma that dredges up). I don't go to a pitchfork review seeking out a specific writer.

Publications like POW seem to do a better job at that (as far as highlighting individual writers voices etc goes)

I dont think anyone sayings its impossible to use your eyes and differentiate writers, but when you write for a publication as big as pitchfork, your work will come off as an extension of that site first and foremost to casual readers. if that makes sense

 

Apr 24, 2015

i mean, on the surface, of course you're right. i was obviously being obtuse to make a point, but i think you guys are overestimating how big and industrious the pool of professional rap critics is. almost everyone writes for almost every site. it's just the way it is, you know?

 

Apr 24, 2015

Yeah Im starting to notice that more and more, but only as I get more involved with my own writing/the industry. As you've said yourself, there aren't like hundreds of notable rap critics, but it can certainly feel that way for a casual reader

 

Apr 24, 2015

the issue is reviews becoming consumer writeups -- makes sense practically, given the way "art" (music, films) are treated as commodities ... however, straight reviews (regardless of the score) are typically so boring and lacking in context i usually dont bother reading them. even without the score, the tendency is for them to be substance free

thats why i read, and i tend to write, broader pieces about what makes a filmmaker/artists important within a larger prism

 

Apr 24, 2015

right, but this is what we should be trying to correct

 

Apr 24, 2015

someone's gonna have to review these reviews for me, using numbers

 

Apr 24, 2015

I'd give Narsh's ranking of those 4 B6 reviews (including his own) a 7.6

 

Apr 24, 2015

f--- ur right mine should've been #1 huge oversight on my part

 

Apr 27, 2015

I don't like to think about art as though it were art.

Can you quantify it for me?

While you're at it, could you give me the step-by-step methodology Young Thug uses to create his songs?

 

May 1, 2015

all i can say is I'm happy this thread is the thread out of the other 4 barter 6 rating review threads.. with the least amount of views/replies

take this L

 

May 1, 2015

lolllllllllll reach