WPG writes about the greatest album ever made

Started by WPG, Mar 25, 2017, in Music Add to Reading List

  1. Mikey
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    Mar 27, 2017
    @JMG reading a WPG article

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  2. Oldboy
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    Mar 27, 2017
    now i wanna read a @JMG article about biggie
     
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  3. JMG
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    JMG

    Mar 27, 2017
    i have only heard his mainstream hits.. i think he is highly overrated, always sounds the same. he lied about his past too and was never no gangster. if he didnt get killed he would of been forgotten faster then 50 cent..

    but maybe ill force myself to listen to one of his albums and do a proper review.
     
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  4. lil uzi vert stan
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    Mar 27, 2017
    lol i thought it did a strong job of evoking the time period, made you feel how biggie mightve in the fall of 96/when recording life after death.
     
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  5. Pandemic
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    "He wouldn’t live to add the finishing touches, but there were certainly some tweaks Big made between Pac’s death and his own. In 2003, Lil Cease told XXL that the album’s penultimate song, the RZA-produced “Long Kiss Goodnight,” originally opened with words about Tupac that were “terrible,” and which never saw the light of day. (In the same article, Puff strenuously denies that the monologue was directed at anyone in particular, but doesn’t offer an alternate explanation for why it was cut.)"

    If you listen to the leaked demo of Long Kiss Goodnight, Biggie says, "It's time for 2pac's fall man"



    I think it was recorded after Pac died. He mentions being crippled by Cease which I think happened after Pac's death.
     
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  6. Kon
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    Mar 28, 2017
    ^That's a great diss song, but very disrespectful of Biggie if he made that after Pac died, low move.

    But d--- imagine if they both had lived and Pac were to respond to that song, the Pac/Biggie beef could have been amazing..
     
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  7. Section80
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    Mar 29, 2017
    The f--- does that mean? Was just saying this was bigs second best.. as previously stated. 0/2 big guy
     
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  8. WPG
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    Mar 29, 2017
    but you only listen to one rapper m8
     
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  9. Section80
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    0/3.. me liking Em's first three albums (considering them all top 30ish all time) doesn't mean that's all I listen to. Genuinely don't understand why you can't like him without stanning him in other people's eyes.
     
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  10. WPG
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    WPG sxn80 Rory Gilmore

    Mar 29, 2017
    dude, you have literally posted things like "it's impossible for anyone to argue that eminem isn't the goat"
     
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  11. Section80
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    No, and if I've ever posted anything of that nature it was a joke. While I myself certainly consider him up there, there's a goat argument to be made for atleast 10-15 rappers in my honest opinion. Biggie most definitely being one of them, and I'm not even one of the people who say it's only because he was immortalized (killed while at the height of his career). I think peak to peak Eminem was the most complete package and should easily garner top 5 consideration, bit wouldn't argue if you chose another reasonable candidate over him. Your whole boosie argument always confused me though I will say
     
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  12. Worm
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    Worm Big Perm Big Worm

    Mar 29, 2017
    I always thought Biggie made it after his death, but after all the s--- Pac talked to him when he was alive, was responsible for threats Biggie was getting, and pretty much responsible for his death due to building up the whole east/west coast beef, I didn't really see it as disrespectful.

    I always thought these were the lines aimed at him

    "When my men bust, you just move with such stamina
    Slugs missed ya, I ain’t mad at cha (we ain’t mad at cha)"

    "Now you rest eternally, sleepy, you burn when you creep me
    Rest where the worms and the weak be"

    "Heard through the grapevine, you got f----- fo’ times
    d--- that three to nine, f----- you up for real though"

    "n----- please, blood floods your dungarees
    And that’s just the half of my warpath
    Laugh now cry later, I rhyme greater"
     
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  14. Kon
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    Mar 29, 2017
    To me Puffy is the most responsible for both their deaths if the recent story about him putting the hit out on Pac is true. Biggie likely wouldn't have died if Pac didn't die and Pac died cuz of Puff if that story is true which I believe it is.

    Pac talked a lot but still in the end he didn't actually harm Biggie. Puff or whoever set up the hit was the one who took it to that level.

    I also don't agree he hyped up the whole east coast/west coast beef, the media did that. Pac said it was a beef between 2 rappers and 2 labels not an east vs. west thing. In fact shortly before he died he was working on a collaboration album with east coast artists called one nation.

    Also to me dissing a dead rapper especially one who you used to be friends with is a low move no matter what the case. Be the bigger man at that point.
     
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  15. Big Dangerous
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    Big Dangerous World Heavyweight Champion

    Mar 29, 2017
    This is one of my all time favorite Biggie lines

    savage af given the situation, Big ethered Pacs whole existence on that one tbh
     
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  16. Big Dangerous
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    Big Dangerous World Heavyweight Champion

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    btw d--- biggie is the best ever :sweatt:
     
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  17. Worm
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    Mar 29, 2017
    I really don't think Puffy did it...there were so many people he pissed off, let alone just getting in a fight with a g--- member that same night

    Yeah you can blame the media, but Biggie was ignoring it for the most part and Pac and Suge kept instigating and digging in. Biggie was getting a lot of death threats before Pac died because of it. There's a line that people can cross against each other with s--- they say....I think Pac did that with Hit Em Up and all the other s--- he talked. If I was Biggie I would've probably laughed when he died
     
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  18. Kon
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    Mar 29, 2017
    @Worm did you hear the confession from Keefe-D, who was in the car that shot Pac though? He basically tells the whole story of Pac's murder. It's in the movie murder rap but you can find that scene on YouTube too.
     
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  19. Worm
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    Nah I'll check it out when I have time, but I've seen so many of these so called "who shot biggie and pac" documentaries where they have "undisputed" proof it was someone totally different. I think most of it is BS. I think it was a g--- hit for the fight Pac got in

    On Keefe-D AKA Duane Keith Davis:
    "It is to be noted that whatever story about his family member was told to Kading and Dupree, previous to that Davis had made the claim that Marion “Suge” Knight- recently shot at an LA Nightclub- was behind both the Shakur and Wallace shootings. That was Davis’ formal statement.
    However as the years went by and the leads cooled down, Davis story changed to one that was magically congruent with Kading and Dupree’s version of events. Under a temporary immunity deal and plea bargain called a “proffer deal”, Davis told a “whale of a tale” to the LAPD’s finest and this time implicated Corey Edwards, a friend of Anderson’s, himself and Anderson (with others) in the shooting of Shakur September of 1996. "
     
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  20. ray simpson
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    Mar 29, 2017
    Doesn't surprises me that worm knows some behind the scenes s--- of this murder. I'm sure he knows even more than what he let on in the above post. Im sure he's connected to the Rockefeller family.
     
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