May 10, 2015

nope

 

May 10, 2015

I was in pretty f----- up states before, I'm really heartless too but I still would never do it to my parents. To me its a coward way out, Its selfish when you have people that care about you. I can't imagine being a parent and having to go to your own kids funeral.

 

May 10, 2015

If I was going to do it, Id do it really far away so none of my family would see it.. I had a friend that cut himself in his own bed at home, his poor family had to clean all that mess. that's even worse than knowing your kid is dead, when you have to see his blood everywhere.

 

May 10, 2015

Not something I wanna get into much, but it's very sad to me. Obviously it really sucks for that person's family and friends as well but anyone who gets to that point has some serious issues and has likely been doing their best to hold on for a while. Plus mental health care in the US is really poor.

 

May 10, 2015

In a way it's courageous cause u have the guts to take your own life, in another it's cowardly because your giving up

 

May 10, 2015

Both sides of the argument are valid. Can it be deemed cowardly to k--- yourself? yup. Can it be seen as courageous to k--- yourself too? definitely. Not only because of the physical act of doing so but also because who knows what's next? I don't care how much of an atheist you are, if you have a gun in your mouth, you would have asked yourself that question or will ask it the moment before you pull the trigger. Not existing ever again and confronting your own mortality in general is scary, no matter how much you want to stop depression.

In terms of it being selfish.... Yes, in a way it is, but I also think it's fair to say that wanting someone to continue to go through severe depression and pain so you don't have to suffer can also be seen as selfish.

 

May 10, 2015

its not fair why god gave this choice to man and women i do not know

 

May 10, 2015

it's not cool

 

May 10, 2015

I've never thought about it, even when I've been in really bad places, because no matter what, there is always something to be smile about. I've stayed up one night to stop someone from taking their life and ever since, she's been so happy with her life, which makes me happy. I could never take my own life because I always see the good, even in a bad situation and I'm a very positive person

 

May 10, 2015

I think that every situation is different regarding each person's limits, condition (mental and physical) etc etc. It's obviously a last resort solution, but that's where the generalisations end imo. It's a personal choice and I don't know what's going on with someone's life. Our minds and bodies can take that much, if someone (and his/her doctors) have done their best and can't give or take anything more I won't call him/her a coward.

If I had x weeks to live and have exhausted all possibilities, I'd rather k--- myself instead of watching my parents watching me rot and spoonfeeding me every day, I don't think that'd be selfish on my part. I won't speak about mental health problems because I can't even imagine what's going on with some of these, and sometimes it's just the only way out. You can't judge if you don't know what's going on, and saying that it's the easy way out is very easy to say if you're looking from a distance.

 

May 10, 2015

I don't understand people saying it's selfish. I view selfishness as I'm gonna eat this whole pizza by my self and not share. How is it selfish to take your own life? If you're saying it's selfish to not get help? I can maybe understand that, but the mind is the most powerful thing in the world and if you're so deep in negative thoughts and feelings, help isn't help.

I take the whole suicide thing as either that person has serious health issues or there are things in that persons life that they don't want to deal with anymore. They're scared to have to face reality head on. The thought of a certain situation/s or the idea facing certain problems is to difficult to accept, therefore take the easy way out and end your life.

It's unfortunate that we'll never truely understand what goes on in another's mind. For example people who smoke who say they can't quit. I've never smoked cigs, but I d--- well can bet I could stop if I knew it was slowly killing me and causeing problems, but then again I've never been in that situation.

 

May 10, 2015

My brother killed himself a decade ago and I literally wasted 7 years of my 20's mourning his death, so, yes, it's an incredibly selfish thing to do. I would k--- to get those years back.

Before that though I probably would have it's an individual's decision and I'd say a prayer that they they got the peace they couldn't find on this planet.

 

May 10, 2015

We had thread similar to this on SL forget for what though. Anyways, I remember @Narsh saying he was studying neuroscience (at least I think) and he had some really good explanations in that thread so he probably knows best about this topic tbh.

 

May 10, 2015

as far as the legality of doctor assisted suicide etc goes, but morally? and as an individual? I dont know. I know there are mental illness that could result in suicide, and that we cant have a negative stigma about that -- we need to find ways to help those people not scrutinize their actions.

But then again, anyone considering this must have something off in their brain right? It seems like a contradiction to be sane and rational but want to end your life. Unless, you're already on your deathbed.

There was a time in my life where I was probably clinically depressed, and considered this. Its scary how easily a misguided kid could venture into this territory. All I needed in the end was a friend of mine who talked some sense into me. He put things into perspective. And I have reasons now that will always prevent me from going down that train of thought again...my family, my goals in life, whatever.

I guess what Im saying is, more times than not, people in this situation need an outlet. They need support. Whether it be a therapist, or meds, or a combination of both. Friends, family, etc. We need to let go of the stigma surrounding those who're having trouble sticking it out till..what? a natural death. or a drunk driver. or a home invasion. or a million other ways to day. We shouldnt be alienating these people.

 

May 10, 2015

Im sorry man. I cant imagine what that must've been like.

 

May 10, 2015

I don't condone it, but if a person wants to end their life because of reasons beyond anyone's control, that's their choice. Obviously if it was someone I knew I'd try my best to convince otherwise but if they're set on going, so be it.

 

May 10, 2015

I appreciate it and it doesn't bother me too much anymore. Never underestimate the healing power of time I guess. But yeah, it was pretty much worst case scenario without somebody else being killed. When it's put into context I think my stance on suicide(I pissed a lot of people off in the Robin Williams thread IIRC) makes more sense. I was 20, he was 19. We lived together and had an ugly, ugly fight the night before. After a drunken night of partying or whatever, words were exchanged over nothing, blows were thrown and I said some really evil s---. That was the last time I ever saw him. The next day he went out into our backyard and put a shotgun in his mouth. I heard it and everything. The f----- up thing and I've learned this since then is nobody cleans that s--- up(in any suicide). My roommates and I were left to do that. You would think there's some type of government sanctioned crew that would do that but there's not and like I said we had to. Anyways, that's where I got my s-----y attitude about suicide from. I'll never get those years back and it's f----- up but the more time that passes I understand that people shouldn't be living in pain and if they just don't want to be here anymore it's their prerogative and it's ultimately their decision. However, it's a decision that comes with major, life altering consequences for otherwise completely innocent people.

 

May 10, 2015

As someone diagnosed with clinical depression, I can't say I haven't contemplated it a million times. I ended up deciding that I would rather k--- time on Earth taking and snorting as much Xanax as I could to numb the pain. I'm 5 months clean now and taking things one day at a time. Sometimes I think about suicide still, but I'm better at rationalizing my emotions and handling it.