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Here's the thing about Birds

Started by DKC, Sep 17, 2016, in Music Add to Reading List

  1. DKC
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    DKC shortygonletmecrush

    Sep 17, 2016
    Travis (probably Mike Dean) did a good job sequencing this album and maintaining an aesthetic/vibe throughout. On paper, it's a much better listen front-to-back than Rodeo, which other than the stretch from Oh My Dis Side to Night Call is sequenced terribly. But Travis is so irredeemably boring 95% of the time that it doesn't matter. I've listened to this album probably five times and I don't remember a single line Travis said on this entire album besides 'stroke my cactus' and the part where he gives a nod to Day N Nite. I've never heard another album that's sequenced and maintains a sound this well that has such lackluster individual songs. It's actually kind of baffling to me. Even if Rodeo is a terrible listen front-to-back and Travis still isn't that interesting, the star-studded guest line up and the grandiose production makes each song feel like an event. How can you borrow this much from Kanye, Future, Young Thug, Rae Sremmurd (and h---, even Kid Cudi) and have nothing to show for it?

    21 Savage renegaded the whole album
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  2. Bourbon Ben
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    Bourbon Ben Mad pooper

    Sep 17, 2016
    ur last sentence pretty much says everything u need to no about BIRDS, When 21 renegades ur album thats a problem
     
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    Soldier big cuntry's alias

    Sep 17, 2016
    Get ready for the s--- storm. We talked about this before but I completely agree, Travis is so forgettable on this album and it is just flat out boring.

    You starting to come around to 21 now? Definitely took me some time but I'm a fan now.
     
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    Bourbon Ben Mad pooper

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    21 legit just renegade this album by just having energy lmfaoo
     
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  5. RMK
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    Sep 17, 2016
    listened to it 1st time yesterday, rodeo grabbed me first listen, I have a hard time remembering what any of the tracks on birds sound like
     
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    Sep 17, 2016
    I agree with pretty much all of this except for the part where you hold it against him.

    Like this is a really cohesive, enjoyable, well put together project and the only major negative to it is Travis. Yeah he has no quoteables, yeah he brings nothing new, but what he does just kinda works. Something about his voice and his flow just kinda fits and makes good songs , his music is good but its not because of him.

    I kinda think of travis albums the same way i think of DJ khaled albums, or Dj Esco albums
     
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    oh I remember kendrick being awful that's all
     
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    Agreed. Plus the way mike dean mixed the album bothered me as well. He made the vocals loud af so that you can barely hear the beat which is key in travis scott projects. Makes you have to pay more attention to travis
     
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    DKC shortygonletmecrush

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    Fair, but they don't market themselves the same way as Travis - he didn't even write down the features on this lol. He wants to be an artist. Esco and Khaled know they're curators.
     
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    DKC shortygonletmecrush

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    I never disliked 21 he just didn't grab my attention much. Love his verse on outside though.
     
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    Travis to me feels like a part of the instrumental, if that makes sense. He's not a spitter and to me, that's fine. Maybe I've been conditioned by the decline in quality or whatever, but I don't really care much about bars. I don't what it is, but that allows me to really enjoy Travis' music. It's atmospheric sonically and Travis blends in to it, almost to a fault. I would never argue with someone who just hates his music and what he represents, because I understand why people think the way they do.
     
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    :clap:
     
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    I hate how accurate this is
     
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    Sep 17, 2016
    i rly agreee on this and it applies on roddeo
    produviton and ferautes carry tracis so hard
     
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    Travis slander :rejoice:
     
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    DKC shortygonletmecrush

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    I get that 100%, I'm not a person who only values "bars" in rap. I can appreciate why someone would enjoy this for its atmosphere. The thing that bothers me about it is Travis tries so hard to be an 'artist' with his music but it doesn't feel like his art in any sense. The first time I really listened to Monster and enjoyed it a lot of what I was listening for was for the aesthetic, but even then before I was fluent in understanding Future's crooning it felt personal to Future himself. It felt like it was his. You get no sense of that with Travis, which is fine, but he tries to paint himself as something he's not.
     
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    Kenneth slander :rejoice:
     
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    Sep 17, 2016
    You think he doesn't even choses who is gonna rap on the album and who is gonna produce it and how it's gonna sound?

    Why the f--- did ye and jay hire him to prouce for them if he's that non-talented?
     
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    Mozes Rose going full r----- again
     
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