how can anyone actually compare steph curry to MJ???

Started by Jeremy Pimp, Feb 29, 2016, in Sports Add to Reading List

  1. Jeremy Pimp
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    Feb 29, 2016
    Either they are just trolling or they are just really f---ing delusional and hopped on a huge bandwagon.. But I see some people comparing steph to MJ.....

    Im just gon say it here, steph will never be like Mike. Steph is playing amazing now but lets see if he can do what MJ did then compare. Winning one ring doesnt mean he can be compared to the goat
     
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    Feb 29, 2016
    Only time will tell. But Curry will for sure go down as the best shooter in NBA history
     
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    One thing I've never understood and I see it with a lot of fans of American sports is people judging how good a player is based off their team's success. Saying '____ has 3 more rings than _____'.

    Aren't you talking about the individuals? What if a great player was in a s--- team?
     
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    I mean in Australian football some of the absolute goats and the arguable goat never won a premiership (our superbowl/championship) that doesn't take away from their individual skill though because some absolute jokes have held the Premiership.

    I've just never really understood the relevance of team accomplishments in an argument of two individuals. In some cases maybe but not every.
     
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    Yeah I was about to mention Gary Ablett Snr after your first post. They way people rate players by how many rings they have sucks and annoying. Comparing individuals with team awards.

    But Steph Curry is having a phenomenal season, comparing him to Michael is way too early though. Let's see how long his form lasts. But he is one of the greatest shooters we've seen, certainly making a case for himself as the best shooter of All-Time.
     
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    It really annoys me it's like people don't have an argument for their players individual skills so they talk up their teams accomplishments. Like when your team beats someone elses and they decide to bring up the ten premierships their team won 50 years ago.
     
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    Nathan Ablett > Gary Ablett Snr tbh
     
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    I see what you did there...

    But still :swansonfrown:
     
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    What's wrong with comparing him to the GOAT? That's something every player should strive for. Sure, they have completely different games and skill sets, but Curry has been on a dominant tear these past few seasons and it doesn't look like anyone will be able to stop him and the Warriors soon. Nothing wrong with comparing their dominance. Curry is running this league right now and could be a unanimous MVP selection. He's honestly taken over as the best player on the planet right now, and that's coming from a pretty big LeBron fan. Curry is an amazing, once in a generation player and people need to stop hating and just enjoy the greatness.
     
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    Curry has a chance to go down as the best ever, doesn't mean he has a similar style to MJ or anything like that. But he certainly has the chance to do it or be close.

    Also comparing rings among legendary players is the best way to go, that's not the only thing that matters of course but if all else is equal or close to it then rings should be one of the most important factors when comparing all time greats, especially in the NBA.
     
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    :lol6:
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    He's probably the modern era "MJ".. but in reality there's no comparison
     
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    Curry is once in a generation, like Kobe, like Lebron.

    MJ was once in a lifetime. The most complete player I've ever seen, with the biggest chip on his shoulder.
     
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    Curry's 2 years into his prime and could have 2 rings after this year to go along with 2 MVPs and a lot of records. Oh and also better numbers overall than MJ's best season according to some.

    If you honestly think Curry has 'no chance' to reach Jordan's level or pass it then you're wrong, he clearly has a chance. Unfortunately there's a large number of people who will hold onto that 'Jordan's the best ever' talk no matter what happens and no matter who comes along.

    Curry is changing the game as a whole too.

    Just pisses me off when people say s--- like that so early in someone's career, they clearly don't want someone passing MJ.
     
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    this

    plus people always compare the greatness of a legend to someone who shows potential to be one
    happens in any sport
     
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    Calling him the modern era MJ makes no sense to me, their games are nothing alike lol, very different styles.

    I guess you're just trying to say he's the best player in the league but that's the only way it makes any sense.
     
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    It's not that people don't want someone to pass MJ, it's just that nobody has, but yet ESPN and fans continue to try to anoint any great player to Jordan's level. It's getting f---ing annoying already.

    Do you know how many f---ing players have been compared to MJ since he retired?

    Tracy McGrady, Grant Hill, Vince Carter, Lebron James, Kobe Bryant, Penny Hardaway, Jerry Stackhouse, Dwayne Wade, Allen Iverson and now Steph Curry?

    Kobe is the ONLY one that I will put NEAR Jordan's level, and I'm not willing to go there, either.

    I said it once, I'll say it again. Jordan was a once in a lifetime player. I doubt he will be matched. It goes far beyond rings or stats. He was legit the greatest basketball player that has played the game. He was elite in almost every sense of the game.

    Curry is more like Reggie Miller than Jordan.
     
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    Disagree 100% that this is why, if that was the case you wouldn't have people saying Kobe in his mid 20s already with 3 rings has 'no chance to be in Jordan's class' and now you're hearing people say the same about Curry in a similar spot.

    The point is their primes are just getting started and they've already had incredible success, to say someone at that point has 'no chance' is just flat out stupid and people clinging onto this 'MJ's the best ever no matter what' belief. No one knows what Curry's next 5-10 years will be like just like no one knew what Kobe's next 10 years would be like at the time. Kobe could have won 10 rings for all we had known at that point, yet people were so sure on the mind set that there was no chance he'd even be close.

    I don't know if you can understand what I'm saying or not, but it's absolutely f---in ridiculous to me that people will dismiss a majority of someone's career when it hasn't even happened yet lol.

    Not only does Curry have a chance to be at Jordan's level, he has a chance to be better. I don't really know how the h--- people can argue he doesn't but whatever lol....I'm not even saying it will happen either, but you're delusional/hating/just not paying attention/on Jordan's nuts if you don't think he has a chance.

    There's really nothing else to say.
     
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    Look, lol bro, I know you're a Kobe fan, so I know your view on the matter is a bit skewed (like mine is when talking about Brady vs Montana or Bird vs Magic).

    I never said "no chance" I just said nobody has surpassed MJ yet.

    You're not even seeing how crazy your argument sounds right now. Why should ANYONE be compared to Jordan after a couple of good years of playing? lol. Curry has ONE ring, and now he's being compared to the GOAT? wtf?

    That's like after Joe Flacco won his first ring, if anyone came out like "FLACCO IS THE NEW TOM BRADY"... I'd give them the same answer.

    The problem is, most people don't even give these players a CHANCE to be MJ, because they crown them MJ before they do anything. Look at this thread as an example... People are already saying "Curry is the next MJ" or "Curry is this generation's MJ" with ONE RING and TWO elite seasons.

    I've seen this same story since MJ retired. I remember the specials on Jerry Stackhouse and Grant Hill. It's like a joke now. Only ONE player has come close, and that's Kobe.

    Bro, MJ dominated for two f---ing decades. DOMINATED.

    He led a Bulls team, in the 80's against monster franchises like the Celtics and Pistons. He f---ing dropped 63 points against the Boston Celtics in the playoffs. He was the entire Bulls' team in those years.

    Say what you want, but I didn't see Kobe or Lebron do what MJ did to that caliber of opponents, with ZERO help around him. The Pistons physically abused Jordan, and he still would drop 45-50 on them at times. He was crazy with it.

    The only player I can say the same thing about is Lebron on the Cavs. Jordan had that, but he was facing WAY tougher competition than Lebron, and Jordan didn't get scared like Lebron did. Jordan went right at these f---ing teams with fearlessness.

    I watched em all. Jordan is the best, hands down.

    Here's something to look at too:

    Lebron

    2X Champion, 2X Finals MVP, 4X MVP, 1X Scoring Champion, 5X NBA First team

    Kobe

    5X Champion, 2X Finals MVP, 1X MVP, 2X Scoring Champion, 9X Defensive first team

    MJ

    6X Champion, 6X Finals MVP, 5 MVPs, 10X Scoring Champion, 9X defensive first team, 1X Defensive MVP, All time playoff scorer, 3X Steals champion

    And just remember this. MJ retired TWICE. That'd be like Kobe retiring from 2006-08, then retiring again from 2012-14.
     
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    Only read part of your post for now but I don't see what me being a Kobe fan has to do with this. If you're implying I have something against Jordan then no not even close, I think he's the best player of all time. I do however hate how he's the only legendary player of the past to ever get mentioned, you could make an argument for someone like Wilt, Magic, Kareem or Bird being in that conversation too but no one ever talks about anyone besides Mike 90% of the time.

    I know it's way too early to put him up there now obviously, me and others online are just saying it could happen if he keeps this pace up. Nothing ridiculous about saying that

    Anyways this is pointless, we aren't understanding each other. As long as you aren't one of the guys saying there's no chance then I can live with that, you're really sleeping on what Curry's doing though. I also think something no one's considering is how Curry won't have to change his game much as he gets older, what did MJ and Kobe do when they got older? They adjusted their game so they could become better shooters, that's already Curry's strength.
     
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