Hopsin is underrated

Started by Slappy, Sep 10, 2022, in Music Add to Reading List

  1. Slappy
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    ...at least as a philosopher. True he's said a lot of dumb s--- but this line from III Mind 5 might be the most insightful thing I've ever heard in a rap song:



    I wonder what exactly he meant by it though. Did he mean "evolve" literally, in the Darwinian sense? :emoji_thinking:

    Anyway that line popped in my head today and I never fully realized how brilliant it is. Even though I hate rap I'm almost tempted to give his music a fair hearing for the first time, especially since denouncing Christianity in 2014 I believe. He might just be the smartest rapper in the game. Definitely smarter than Kendrick at least.
     
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    Did the man who invented college, go to college?

    Okay then.
     
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    "K. Dot on the beat, everybody said they smell fart
    s--- on anybody, I'm a rappin' porta potty
    And I probaby gotta dump right now"

    Also: https://forum.sectioneighty.com/worst-kendrick-lamar-songs-and-lines.t122296

    sit down.
     
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    See I’m the s--- like I slithered in poop - Hopsin
     
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    OK, so we've established both rappers have an unhealthy poop fetish (kind of like Eminem). But name a Kendrick line more insightful than the one quoted in the OP. You can't.
     
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    A line is always going to be limited in insightfulness & Hopsin doesn’t possess any within his music regardless, he makes surface level critiques on subjects he doesn’t understand. I’m a Hospin fan, but philosophy isn’t a trait he has ever wielded, he’s extremely uneducated on socioeconomics. It’s also silly to weaponise Kendrick’s lyricism in order to prop up Hopsin’s, not only due to the significant difference in consciousness & approach to their music, but because it wasn’t a comparison in the first place.

    But I’ll bite:

    The noble person that goes to work and pray like they ‘posed to? Slaughter people too, your murder's just a bit slower

    Whole verse:

    Eight billion people on Earth, silent murderers
    Non-profits, preachers and church, crooks and burglars
    Hollywood corporate in school, teachin' philosophies
    You either gon' be dead or in jail, killer psychology
    Silent murderer, what's your body count? Who your sponsorship?
    Objectified so many b------s, I killed their confidence
    The media's the new religion, you killed the consciousness
    Your jealousy is way too pretentious, you killed accomplishments
    n----s killed freedom of speech, everyone sensitive
    If your opinion f--- 'round and leak, might as well send your will
    The industry has killed the creators, I'll be the first to say
    To each exec', "I'm saving your children"—We can't negotiate
    I caught a couple of bodies myself, slid my community
    My last Christmas toy drive in Compton handed out eulogies
    Not because the rags in the park had red gradient
    But because the high blood pressure flooded the caterin'
    So what's the difference 'tween your life when hiding motives?
    More fatalities and reality bring you closure
    The noble person that goes to work and pray like they 'posed to?
    Slaughter people too, your murder's just a bit slower
     
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    Imo, Hopsin is talented and creative. He has the rhyming, production and some catchy hooks. But I would not call him a philosopher. Many of his opinions have been black-and-white, reductionist, holier-than-thou.

    He kind of gets bad rap in the hiphop community as the "im14andthisisdeep" rapper because of his immaturity and bad takes.

    Seeing the interview where he reconciles with Dame Ritter, it seems like he's matured a bit and improved his mental health in the past few years. I wish the best for him.
     
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    My man DoCtoR GriLLs would eat that s--- straight up
     
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  10. Slappy
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    Has Kendrick really "evolved" though? I don't get that impression at all. Last time I checked he's still blaming white people for his people's shortcomings. That's not very sophisticated. Also spiritually I would think that's gotta take a toll on a man after a while.
     
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    And these bars, wouldn't dial it back if I star 69'ed the track
     
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    So many big words in here yet its all discredited by the line I underlined :emoji_slight_frown:
     
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    Which one of the mods edited this. Don't censor me man!
     
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    @Michael Myers ^ I know this was you. Poetry hater.
     
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    #cancelRicky

    nah that took way too long to scroll lol
     
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    Eh, I don't know man, those Chinese c---- decided to eat whack s--- and nearly ended the world. Talk about devolving
     
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    True. The Chinese are proof you can have a high average IQ as a group and still be s******* s****
     
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    Shanghai s----s?
     
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