May 10, 2016

Personally I feel it was with Recovery. You could say with Encore he got lazy and just went to the bank, putting the album out only because the label needed him to. But if you had told me in 2000 that Eminem would some day make songs like LTWYL and NA, I would have laughed in your face.

@Immy @Narsh @Koolo @Nori gonna need you to bring some logic to this conversation less we get flooded by a tidal wave of Stan's.

And to any em fans who get offended- selling out doesn't necessarily mean falling off.
Definition from Wikipedia: Selling out is a common idiomatic pejorative expression for the compromising of a person's integrity, morality, authenticity, or principles in exchange for personal gain, such as money.
So like making records just to get a hit. Discuss.

 

May 10, 2016

2000 with Stan !?
If not def Recovery .

 

May 10, 2016

Maybe but if that's the case you could argue that TRSS was a sell out single. The label forced him to record it last minute because MMLP didn't have a poppy single like My Name Is. Or you can go farther back and say when he signed with Dre/Aftermath. I would still say Recovery though. Felt to me like he had lost the guts to make the music he wanted.

 

May 10, 2016

after infinite

 

May 10, 2016

I love you lol

 

May 10, 2016

Tagging narsh and logic in the same sentence

 

May 10, 2016

Goat avy BTW

 

May 10, 2016

Encore cos he literally made the shittest songs ever and didn't care bout the quality of the album

 

May 10, 2016

Yeah keep me as far away from that Rubiks cube fanatic as possible

 

May 10, 2016

Definitely Recovery

Earlier first singles like Real Slim Shady, Without Me, Just Lose It......these were definitely designed for commercial consumption, but they didn't represent Eminem compromising himself artistically. They were still pretty typical Eminem songs at their core. (Just Lose It is godawful, but that's because he was a terrible writer in 2004, not because he was selling out.)

Recovery marked the point where he started working with pop stars that he thought could get him the radio play he got in his prime. It worked fairly well in terms of getting him attention, but it's hard to deny that it was a hypocritical move on its face. Relapse is a worse album than Recovery, but it at least represents Eminem doing what he wanted to do with his music; Recovery is a total capitulation to what he thought the masses wanted to hear. The Eminem of 2001 would've openly mocked the Facebook-quote-ready, put-ya-lightas-up manufactured inspiration of Not Afraid and the sleek radio-ready collaborations with Pink and Rihanna, but in 2010 he used them to his financial advantage and he's been doing it ever since.

 

May 10, 2016

With Recovery when i found out he was doing a song with Pink i thought that was a joke

 

May 10, 2016

Ugh to me lighters was the lowest point. That song was an abomination.

 

May 10, 2016

Whatever time period he had two product placement ads during the superbowl. One of them was for lipton ice tea...jesus em.

When you are a hermit, i guess that is how you get a pay cheque inbetween 3 year album cycles.

 

May 10, 2016

The one where he was rapping about window pane

 

May 10, 2016

Recovery. Always thought he was a b---- for being such a hypocrite.

 

May 10, 2016

TES era TBH

 

May 10, 2016

Recovery but if it wasn't for recovery em might have just dropped relapse 2 then left the game idk

 

May 10, 2016

When you go from working with Outsidaz to working with Dido, kinda obvious..........